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I know I am two days late to post but I have seen the orbitouch keyboards sell for $50 or so on ebay. I am wondering how you managed to find the touchstream as horrible as that title is.
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I know I am two days late to post but I have seen the orbitouch keyboards sell for $50 or so on ebay. I am wondering how you managed to find the touchstream as horrible as that title is.
webwit mentioned the seller on eBay mislabeled it. the eBay listing says Fingerstream ST when it's actually Touchstream LP. webwit seems to have a knack for finding people who have gold but think it's silver.
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Graphite on a PCB, whaaa?

The older ones did use two part membranes, but I think a lot of newer ones use graphite on the dome. The one depicted in the picture at the front of the guide works as such
Some PCB manufacturers are willing to put a graphite layer on top of the copper layer but it'd definitely be not only foolish but sinful, especially since God (I mean Cherry) gave us the MX switches.
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Yeah I realized that. The listing title was Touchworks Fingerstream ST combo mouse & zero-force KB, every thing in that is off. The seller even forgot to put keyboard in the title. It's just really random and I am sad that it slipped through my searches, not that I would have been able to keep up with webwit's much deeper pockets.
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Some PCB manufacturers are willing to put a graphite layer on top of the copper layer but it'd definitely be not only foolish but sinful, especially since God (I mean Cherry) gave us the MX switches.
You don't get PCB-based rubber domes, except for the Topres which are completely different in that they use capacitance switching...
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I want a Ricercar SPOS. Anyone want to trade theirs for an XArmor U9BL?
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How good is the Black Widow looking right now? I saw the video "review" on youtube and that's it. Any reason not to buy it? because it's a good price for a MX blue switch keyboard and if I preorder it right now, I'll get the US layout (very hard for me to find a US mechanical keyboard here), not sure if I'll be able to order a US keyboard once they have the local French one in stock.

Also is the backlighting the only difference between the Ultimate and the normal one?

Thanks
Here are all of the differences:



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I would wait until it's released or maybe goes on a sale. I am worried about the keycap wobble.

Blackwidow has no backlighting or multimedia hub.
But he was referring to the BlackWidow Ultimate.

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I've been a lurker in this thread for quite some time now. I have wanted a mechanical keyboard for a while, but could never justify the $100+ for a decent keyboard. Well... I still can't justify it, but the urge is really getting to me!
I don't blame you! But I can speak from experience and say that even though it may not seem like it's worth it now, it'll seem more than worth it once you finally acquire a decent/good mechanical keyboard!

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That being said, I'm having trouble deciding between a couple of keyboards.

At this point in time, I use a Logitech Illuminated Slim keyboard (scissor switch) at home to game on and an OEM HP rubber dome keyboard at work. I have never used a mechanical keyboard, so I'm not really sure what I am looking for in one. I really appreciate the back-lighting and the silence of my Logitech and how thin it is. However, the keys lack any sort of feeling. They're kind of mushy, I guess. Most readily comparable to a Dell notebook keyboard.

So in order to retain some of the "silent" aspect of my current keyboard, I was thinking that a Das Professional Silent would be the best compromise of silence and feeling for me. I really like the backlit Deck keyboards, but I absolutely hate the font that they use on their keys (trivial, I suppose).

Any opinions on what I should do?
One thing I believe is worth mentioning is that mechanical keyboards with the Cherry MX Browns (such as the Das Model S Silent) are still capable of being clacky. I mean, it's just that the switch itself doesn't make a sound (as compared to clicky switches like the Cherry MX Blues). But when bottoming out these keyboards, they still make noise. Fortunately, they have a very light resistance and so it's easier to avoid bottoming out. Plus, the build quality of keyboards like the Das Model S is so high that even the sound of bottoming out is pleasing (I mean, it's not cheap-sounding so to speak): it's nice and solid!

But to get a general idea of what your first mechanical could sound like, check out the videos on these YouTube search results pages:

There's also the video that's at the end of this article:

http://hothardware.com/cs/blogs/mrtg...mystified.aspx


Quite naturally, some videos will make certain keyboards sound louder than they actually are, so watch several different videos that show the same keyboard. But also pay attention to how hard the person is typing: some of these people are bottoming out kinda hard while others are not bottoming out at all. Some videos might have too much treble while others may be a little bit muddy. So there again, watch as many videos as you can to get a better idea of what the actual sound might be. And of course, always try to go for the highest quality versions of the videos as possible.

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Also, I hear there is a discount on Das KB's if you're a student. Is this discount better than the current 25% off?
I didn't know that there is a 25% discount, but the Student Discount (the Back to School Promotion) is 24% off:

http://www.daskeyboard.com/back-to-school-promotion/

If you can take advantage of this, then go for it!! The Silent models will be $102.60 shipped, and the non-Silent models will be $98.04 shipped! This price is extremely hard to beat for a BNIB Das Model S!

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All those ML switch keyboards are have small layouts

I found other Cherry keyboards!
http://www.materiel.net/ctl/Claviers..._euro_USB.html
http://www.materiel.net/ctl/Claviers..._euro_USB.html

I think the LSCEU has blue switches and the LQCEU has white ones, but I'm not sure.

Between blue, black and white, which would be better for someone who loves Thinkpads (it will be as much for gaming as typing)?
I would say either the Cherry MX Blues or Browns because of the lighter resistance and the tactile feedback. The Blacks don't have any tactile feedback while the Whites/Clears have a tactile feedback but have a stiffer spring which is stiffer than the Cherry MX Blues, but lighter than the Blacks. The Cherry MX Blues have a slightly sharper, more precise tactile feedback than the Browns. Plus, they provide a neat click sound upon actuation (I love it).

However, the Browns are better for gaming than the Blues in that the problem with the Blues is that the release point is higher in the key travel than the actuation point. This means that it can be problematic for double-tapping. But for casual gamers who let the key come all the way back up anyway in between the two strokes of a double-tap, the Blues are perfectly fine (and some even prefer the Blues for gaming).

So as you might be surmising from this, it's really completely up to you.
Edited by TwoCables - 8/25/10 at 8:33pm
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Das Model S Silent comes in tomorrow! Time to replace my ABS M1!
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