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the original question was

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Originally Posted by thiru View Post
How good is the Black Widow looking right now? I saw the video "review" on youtube and that's it. Any reason not to buy it? because it's a good price for a MX blue switch keyboard and if I preorder it right now, I'll get the US layout (very hard for me to find a US mechanical keyboard here), not sure if I'll be able to order a US keyboard once they have the local French one in stock.

Also is the backlighting the only difference between the Ultimate and the normal one?

Thanks
I answered.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lmnop View Post
I would wait until it's released or maybe goes on a sale. I am worried about the keycap wobble.

Blackwidow has no backlighting or multimedia hub.
then you said.

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
But he was referring to the BlackWidow Ultimate.

ever heard of deduction?
Edited by lmnop - 8/28/10 at 4:18am
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I don't know why you even talk to me. I mean, you know we don't get along, so why can't we just co-exist in this thread without interacting?

For what it's worth: you should have said something like "the non-Ultimate edition doesn't have backlighting or a multimedia hub" as opposed to just saying the same thing thisispatrick said.
Edited by TwoCables - 8/28/10 at 4:22am
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you bust my balls over nothing that is why. you interacted with me
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you bust my balls over nothing that is why. you interacted with me
Sigh. All I was saying was that the way you said it could be interpreted as though you aren't aware that there's an Ultimate edition. You should have specified that you were referring to the regular one as opposed to the Ultimate.

Plus, you don't have any balls.
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Hello world!

A few years ago, I found a previously-enjoyed Maltron keyboard for IBM dumb terminals; it had been left there by the previous owners of the house. Maltron is a little-known family-owned company in England, based on a concept by Lilian Malt (we're talking 1970s). The keyboards are hand-made with technical support and pricing to match. For this reason, I was very excited to have this opportunity.

Although the quality of the keyboard as a whole is without parallel, I found two problems with the keyboard as soon as it began to be my daily driver at home (Model M at work and on several PCs at home). My main PC used to use a very overpriced Logitech keyboard (I will not be using rubber domes again). This keyboard is nice, except: 1) the switches, which are Cherry MX black, and 2) the keys, which are ENGRAVED (yes, the letters are physically scratched into the keys) are no longer relevant to today's PC's. For instance, the Ctl key bears the legend "SET UP".

Lilian calls this an ergonomic keyboard---which it undoubtedly is. However, could the key switches not be at least Cherry browns if not blues or whites? For this reason, I'm considering having Cherry browns soldered in place of the blacks.

Also, in regards to the keys, I could not salvage keys from an existing Cherry board, because most keyboards are straight and have angled keys. The Maltron by comparison is very curved and has identical, spherical keys.

Here's the difference:
http://www.keycapsdirect.com/images/key-caps/angle2.jpg
http://www.keycapsdirect.com/images/key-caps/angle3.jpg

Therefore I'm considering purchasing the necessary keys, in multiple colours this time, and having the legends sublimated onto the keys. Do you think that a run of ~120 keys would be reasonably priced as to dye sub and the keys themselves?

What do you think, gentlemen? Overhaul or no overhaul?
First, I would love to see pictures of it as is. Second, that is a great keyboard. I would try to keep it stock and just buy a new board with blues for typing. Third, lets see the pictures please
 
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Originally Posted by nmatavka View Post
Hello world!

A few years ago, I found a previously-enjoyed Maltron keyboard for IBM dumb terminals; it had been left there by the previous owners of the house. Maltron is a little-known family-owned company in England, based on a concept by Lilian Malt (we're talking 1970s). The keyboards are hand-made with technical support and pricing to match. For this reason, I was very excited to have this opportunity.

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Lilian calls this an ergonomic keyboard---which it undoubtedly is. However, could the key switches not be at least Cherry browns if not blues or whites? For this reason, I'm considering having Cherry browns soldered in place of the blacks.

Also, in regards to the keys, I could not salvage keys from an existing Cherry board, because most keyboards are straight and have angled keys. The Maltron by comparison is very curved and has identical, spherical keys.

Here's the difference:
http://www.keycapsdirect.com/images/key-caps/angle2.jpg
http://www.keycapsdirect.com/images/key-caps/angle3.jpg

Therefore I'm considering purchasing the necessary keys, in multiple colours this time, and having the legends sublimated onto the keys. Do you think that a run of ~120 keys would be reasonably priced as to dye sub and the keys themselves?

What do you think, gentlemen? Overhaul or no overhaul?
welcome I think you should consider buying a Kinesis Advantage. it's going to cost more than a Kinesis Advantage to manufacture a set of Keycaps for the Maltron.
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@ nmatavka: I did some more digging. I looked at how they attached each switch and it should be easy enough to do a switch swap if your good at that sorta thing.

Keycaps will be another matter. You could put on some scavenged from a broken board or cheep board with cherries. But that shape will make it very hard. You may need to think of something more clever
 
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My point was that you simply stated that the BlackWidow has no backlighting. But the reason why he was talking about backlighting was because he was referring to the Ultimate.

So no, you misunderstood me.
Why are you guys picking about it when I obviously understood what she said?

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Actually, there are two different versions of the Black Widow:

[IsMG]http://home.comcast.net/%7Etim2679/BlackWidow.png[/IMG]

The Ultimate model has backlighting.
He was replying to someone who was asking about a mechanical keyboard with Cherry blue switches under 100$ and mentioned Razer's new keyboard. But that means Blackwidow vanilla, which has no backlighting.
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You don't get PCB-based rubber domes, except for the Topres which are completely different in that they use capacitance switching...
I didn't mean rubber domes, but the graphite layer that rubber domes can sit on.
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