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Oh it has buckling springs... anyone got feedback for it?

edit: found some reviews. Both didn't use the nipple at all but one said it was really bad because there was one direction in which it was really hard to move
And buckling springs are going to be loud...
If you churn up the sensitivity all the way up in Windows, it is quite usable. It's just not as good as the ones on modern Thinkpads. I would still give it a thumbs up nonetheless.

Same is true of the original Trackpoints used in the IBM M13 and M4-1.
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post #6582 of 14551
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Oh it has buckling springs... anyone got feedback for it?

edit: found some reviews. Both didn't use the nipple at all but one said it was really bad because there was one direction in which it was really hard to move
And buckling springs are going to be loud...
Buckling springs are softer on the ears than MX blues, but carry better so you'll annoy more people less.

Buckling springs are great to type on. I really love my MX browns, but there's a reason I have a Model M for my workshop rig. The only downside to buckling springs if they're on the heavier side, around 65g for the Unicomp models. If you have small/weak hands, this may tire you out. But they're still great to type on, all the feedback of MX blues (MX blues are imitating them really), with a softer landing. No need to train yourself not to bottom out, since the bottoming out is so soft and is only about .5mm below the actuation point (which may be the reason it's so soft).

Unless noise is a major issue I think I can recommend the Endurapro to you.
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Holy crap, top right. Is that a black space saving M13? WANT WANT WANT
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Lol, I wish. It's a Model M4-1, complete with rubber sleeves.

I'd sell you one if you weren't on the wrong side of the pond.

That said, the rumored Unicomp Mighty Mouse is going to be a buckling spring version of that.
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If you churn up the sensitivity all the way up in Windows, it is quite usable. It's just not as good as the ones on modern Thinkpads. I would still give it a thumbs up nonetheless.

Same is true of the original Trackpoints used in the IBM M13 and M4-1.
Yeah but I would be also be using a regular mouse next to it for games. The Endurapro's trackpoint mechanism is completely different than the Thinkpad's, and I can't find the IBM M13 that ships to France (and it looks like it costs way more).
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Lol, I wish. It's a Model M4-1, complete with rubber sleeves.

I'd sell you one if you weren't on the wrong side of the pond.

That said, the rumored Unicomp Mighty Mouse is going to be a buckling spring version of that.
Buckling Spring Mighty Mouse? Lol, the Duke Nukem Forever of the keyboard community.
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Yeah but I would be also be using a regular mouse next to it for games. The Endurapro's trackpoint mechanism is completely different than the Thinkpad's, and I can't find the IBM M13 that ships to France (and it looks like it costs way more).
In terms of sensitivity (and lack thereof) the Unicomp FSR pointing stick is similar to the Trackpoint II on the M13. The primary difference is that the FSR stick has some degree of movement, so it wiggles around a bit whereas IBM trackpoints do not move. If you get used to that fact, it's equivalent to the one on the M13.

Bare in mind that I have experience with EnduraPros, M13s and M4-1s.

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Buckling Spring Mighty Mouse? Lol, the Duke Nukem Forever of the keyboard community
Tell me about it, I'd give my right arm for one of those things...
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Buckling springs are softer on the ears than MX blues, but carry better so you'll annoy more people less.

Buckling springs are great to type on. I really love my MX browns, but there's a reason I have a Model M for my workshop rig. The only downside to buckling springs if they're on the heavier side, around 65g for the Unicomp models. If you have small/weak hands, this may tire you out. But they're still great to type on, all the feedback of MX blues (MX blues are imitating them really), with a softer landing. No need to train yourself not to bottom out, since the bottoming out is so soft and is only about .5mm below the actuation point (which may be the reason it's so soft).

Unless noise is a major issue I think I can recommend the Endurapro to you.
Well I guess it could do. But I also game, how are they for that?

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Holy crap, top right. Is that a black space saving M13? WANT WANT WANT
Holy carp I want it too!
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Lol, I wish. It's a Model M4-1, complete with rubber sleeves.

I'd sell you one if you weren't on the wrong side of the pond.

That said, the rumored Unicomp Mighty Mouse is going to be a buckling spring version of that.
Holy mother of god, how much? and I suppose it's a buckling springs keyboard too. What else do you have?
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Tell me about it, I'd give my right arm for one of those things...
.. But then how would you type on it?
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The M4-1 is a 'rubber sleeve' keyboard, it feels like a very good scissor switch keyboard, and has a nice 'thock' to it. Not a mechanical, and has nothing on buckling springs.

If you are in France, and have preference for a European layout as opposed to the US one with the horizontal enter and no key to the right of left shift, I also have a German layout one, albeit a white one.

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.. But then how would you type on it?
Trust me, you don't want to know.
Edited by ch_123 - 8/28/10 at 12:44pm
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