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lol HHKB XD?
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My MBP has been fine while gaming. It does get hot but nothing to worry about temp wise for a comp.


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lol HHKB XD?
Yeah, works great. Installed the driver for it so all the function keys work on my MBP.
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do want :/
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Originally Posted by runeazn View Post
funnily i can feel the actuation and respring, so i always double-tap when i feel its resetting
And this is one reason why some people have absolutely no problem with them.

For those of you reading this not knowing what we are talking about, this is in reference to the Cherry MX Blues.

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The only time I can think currently is pressing pageup/down to zoom in and out on some games and double tapping the W key to sprint.

As I don't do this often, I don't think it would be a problem as the games I play don't really need this action. Thank you for your suggestion

edit: looking at the FILCO Majestouch keyboard layout I am having one problem.
It would be PERFECT BUT there are no media keys which would come in very very handy.
Fortunately, there are three programs that can be used which makes having separate macro keys absolutely unnecessary (and gimmicky):
  • SharpKeys - this is a very simple program that just edits the Registry in order to set your configurations. So, it's a graphical registry editor that just handles the keyboard.
  • KeyboardLink - I think this one needs to stay open in the background in order to keep your configurations. So I guess this one is superior to SharpKeys in that SharpKeys requires Windows to be logged off (soft restart) for the changes to take effect while this one might be able to handle changes on the fly. But, I don't like things running in the background, so my personal preference is SharpKeys.
  • AutoHotKey - This is just a script program thing that I don't know how to describe. It's not just for making keyboard macros or whatever - it's for almost anything you can think of (at least as far as I know - but I don't know much about it, except that it's extremely powerful).

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
just ordered a Das Pro Model S with student discount so it comes out to be $98

what should be expecting when i first use it?

in other news, my bank account took a nice hit, ordered a macbook pro, keyboard and electric toothbrush this past week...
Try to avoid having any expectations. That way, it should maximize your experience!

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Originally Posted by mark45 View Post
I made the following observation:

When playing/moving around I do indeed bring the full key up but I am not sure if it is because of my dodgey keyboard because it seems harder to hold the key in its place. But I can see that as being indeed useful in some situations.
If it's a habit, then you would have to learn how to avoid letting the key come all the way backup before pressing it again (or before pressing the next one).

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I am not sure how much of a step-up to rubber dome > mx black would be in terms of typing if you are having to hit 'harder' on the keys as it requires more force I don't see why I should bother with that. Gaming I can understand in terms of less likely to hit the wrong key and pressing more key combinations but I don't see £100 as a worthy upgrade of a dome keyboard as you have to press these keys flat out anyway and there are not in my case that many situations that demands more keys to be hit on the keyboard...besides I am customed to this and can avoid doing this.
On one hand, it sounds like you're thinking that all mechanical keyboards have better key rollover (or perhaps full NKRO) which isn't true. Some do and some don't.

Regarding the typing experience: from what I've heard, even the Cherry MX Blacks provide a superior typing experience over rubber domes. It's just that when comparing mechanical keyswitches, the Blacks are probably the "worst" for typing, but are still generally better than rubber domes.

But it's true that the stiffer nature of the Blacks helps make it harder to get accidental keypresses and therefore is one of the reasons why it's just about the perfect gaming switch. The other reason is because they're perfect for double-tapping because not only are they linear, but the reset point and actuation point are at the same point in the key travel.

Plus, the build quality of a good mechanical keyboard is so superior to a rubber dome keyboard that it's almost silly to not consider a mechanical board.

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Perhaps this keyboard is not right for me as it seems that perhaps that I am uncompetitive although I do like to 'do good' lol.
Well yeah, boards with the Cherry MX Blacks aren't really a good choice for people who do a good mix of typing and gaming. They're really best for people who do nothing but gaming. However, everyone is different and there are some people who prefer the Blacks for typing over the Browns, Blues, Buckling Springs, etc.

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The brown switches on the other hand are more appealing because of typing, a more enjoyable experience due to less force required?
Indeed. Other than the Cherry MX Reds, its spring is the easiest to compress.

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Originally Posted by mark45 View Post
It can cater for my gaming needs allowing me to press extra keys anyway incase I need to.
Well now you're talking about key rollover. If you want to have unlimited key rollover (full N-Key Rollover), then get a keyboard that features NKRO. Otherwise, it'll be limited to the USB spec which is 6 keys plus 4 modifiers (like Shift, Ctrl, etc.).

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But then again, I am used to the dome keys and if they are kind of like rubber dome as in letting the key 'reset' as in return to its normal idle state then I don't think I'll have a problem gaming on it and have a good typing experience.
The Cherry MX series actuates approximately halfway down through the keystroke, and then it resets roughly halfway back up (but these points are not the same for each switch). Refer to Post #2 of this thread for more information regarding where each switch actuates and resets.

To maintain a good typing experience and still have a good gaming experience, the Cherry MX Browns are probably the best choice because the reset point is lower than the actuation point which means double-tapping does not require the key switch to be fully released in order to become reset. The Blues don't either, but it would require extremely extensive and careful practice - which would require more patience and time than I think anyone has.

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All these things are whizzing around in my head preventing me from getting one.


After looking at this can someone please tell me if I have lost the plot, lol.
I think we are just nit-picking too much. Study the different switch types, and then pick a keyboard that has the switch type you think you would like the most. I think it really is just as simple as that.
Edited by TwoCables - 9/5/10 at 5:46pm
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There's a salvation army next to my apartment. Think I'm going to hit it up later and try to hunt down some keyboards.
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AutoHotKey - This is just a script program thing that I don't know how to describe. It's not just for making keyboard macros or whatever - it's for almost anything you can think of (at least as far as I know - but I don't know much about it, except that it's extremely powerful).
It really can to anything.

I made a thread.
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It really can to anything.

I made a thread.
Well yeah, but that tutorial is pretty easy to find. I mean, it's right at the top of their home page.
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Well yeah, but that tutorial is pretty easy to find. I mean, it's right at the top of their home page.
True. I'm just advocating it's power and versatility.
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True. I'm just advocating it's power and versatility.
Oh. But I went to your thread expecting to see a bunch of different ways it can be used. You know, like a really detailed tutorial based on your experience with the purpose of showing many of the different things it can do.

Were you just trying to get up to 35 Rep?
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