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But how many are sold at Best Buy?
Wouldn't know, I don't give my hard earned duckets to Worst Buy.
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Wouldn't know, I don't give my hard earned duckets to Worst Buy.
I wasn't asking to find out; I was making a point. To the masses, the Black Widow will look like the first-ever mechanical gaming keyboard. Also, many of those people will think that the mechanical key switch is a new technology that Razer developed. I mean, just take a look at what big stores like Best Buy sell for keyboards: nearly 99% of them are rubber dome keyboards (I didn't say 100% because I'm considering all stores that are similar in size to Best Buy).
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I just recieved the FILCO Majestouch FKBN105MC/UKB (blues)

All i can say is wow.

I am trying to teach myself proper touch typing e.g the home keys/finger section as opposed to my natural 'touch typing' that i have got used to over the years.

Had a session L4D2 - no problems with the controls...the only thing that impaired me was the noob team, lol.
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I just recieved the FILCO Majestouch FKBN105MC/UKB (blues)

All i can say is wow.

I am trying to teach myself proper touch typing e.g the home keys/finger section as opposed to my natural 'touch typing' that i have got used to over the years.

Had a session L4D2 - no problems with the controls...the only thing that impaired me was the noob team, lol.
Aw sure, the first time you play it with this new keyboard, and you get a noob team. hehe

Anyway, experiment with hovering your wrists while typing and see what you think. Try different heights ranging from as high as possible to as low as possible without touching the wrist rest or desk. Also, try to keep the wrists up almost as though they were pulled up by strings.
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Aw sure, the first time you play it with this new keyboard, and you get a noob team. hehe

Anyway, experiment with hovering your wrists while typing and see what you think. Try different heights ranging from as high as possible to as low as possible without touching the wrist rest or desk. Also, try to keep the wrists up almost as though they were pulled up by strings.
*Another person intrudes into conversation*

I think I sometimes do that.

Why is it that some places say that you should use all 10 fingers to type and they'd have their own keys that they always return to and stuff?

The finnish layout has 12 keys on the center row of the keyboard:
A S D F G H J K L Ö Ä

The thing that they teach would not work AS WELL with the finnish layout.

I have heard some finnish people talk about it.

But why is it so recommended to use the 10 finger style?

I use my thumbs for space bar, index fingers for keys, middle fingers for keys, the next finger for keys, and the pinkie for modifiers. This system works fine and I type 52 words/minute in english, a language that I only began learning at the age of 8.
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*Another person intrudes into conversation*

I think I sometimes do that.

Why is it that some places say that you should use all 10 fingers to type and they'd have their own keys that they always return to and stuff?

The finnish layout has 12 keys on the center row of the keyboard:
A S D F G H J K L Ö Ä

The thing that they teach would not work AS WELL with the finnish layout.

I have heard some finnish people talk about it.

But why is it so recommended to use the 10 finger style?

I use my thumbs for space bar, index fingers for keys, middle fingers for keys, the next finger for keys, and the pinkie for modifiers. This system works fine and I type 52 words/minute in english, a language that I only began learning at the age of 8.
Because we only have 10 fingers. I dunno. hehe I just use what I was taught. But I never hovered my wrists (which is what works best for the human body at a keyboard) because I was scared of fatigue. Well, it's completely the opposite: I am more relaxed with my wrists hovering and typing is more enjoyable this way. Plus, my touch can be much lighter which really accentuates the benefits of a good mechanical keyboard.
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Aw sure, the first time you play it with this new keyboard, and you get a noob team. hehe

Anyway, experiment with hovering your wrists while typing and see what you think. Try different heights ranging from as high as possible to as low as possible without touching the wrist rest or desk. Also, try to keep the wrists up almost as though they were pulled up by strings.
lol ^^ i know at first i thought it was me...but soon after knew whom to blame lol

Okay thanks I will defo try this because i was just 'resting' my fingers on the keys on the home keys and found it uncomfortable to go from F > R and J > Y.

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I use my thumbs for space bar, index fingers for keys, middle fingers for keys, the next finger for keys, and the pinkie for modifiers. This system works fine and I type 52 words/minute in english, a language that I only began learning at the age of 8.
I kind of do this but sometimes my hand goes out of place and I then make mistakes. For me thats why i wanted to do it the recommended way.

And I done a quick test before...I can type ~45wpm with my way lol so you type better than me...for now lol...at the start of today I was managing 10, 11wpm with this new style but now i am managing about 20wpm on the tests which i have learnt to do the central keys and the top (not reached the bottom i.e. zxcvb...) quite an achievement IMO and could not have learnt it on a better keyboard...also i am managing NOT to bottom out the keys!

MAbye it's my clunky hands but I cannot seem to feel the "tactile feel"

edit: also i converted function 6 to 12 (dont use those, mabye f11 but not needed on my screen) to media keys via smartkeys... so Im not really missing much from my old keyboard lol
Edited by mark45 - 9/10/10 at 2:38pm
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lol ^^ i know at first i thought it was me...but soon after knew whom to blame lol
lol

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Okay thanks I will defo try this because i was just 'resting' my fingers on the keys on the home keys and found it uncomfortable to go from F > R and J > Y.
You're welcome.

It's definitely important too. I've never come across anything that actually recommends keeping the wrists planted on a wrist rest or the desk, but like I said, now that I'm hovering mine, I finally know why.

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I kind of do this but sometimes my hand goes out of place and I then make mistakes. For me thats why i wanted to do it the recommended way.

And I done a quick test before...I can type ~45wpm with my way lol so you type better than me...for now lol...at the start of today I was managing 10, 11wpm with this new style but now i am managing about 20wpm on the tests which i have learnt to do the central keys and the top (not reached the bottom i.e. zxcvb...) quite an achievement IMO and could not have learnt it on a better keyboard...also i am managing NOT to bottom out the keys!

MAbye it's my clunky hands but I cannot seem to feel the "tactile feel"
To really feel it, I recommend just picking any key and pressing it down in slow motion.
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I am about to purchase a filco but I am torn between getting the lettered version or the otaku one. Also between the tenkeyless and the 104 keys. I am going to go with the Blue switches as I feel I do a lot more typing than gaming at times and I doubt it will make too much of a difference in gaming.

Also does anyone have any recommendations on the palm rests. The filco version or the handmade leather one elitekeyboards sells. It is a 20 dollar difference so I am not sure if that is worth it.
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http://rubenerd.com/tag/unicomp/

The pictures on this website make the Unicomp look extremely attractive. I think I might just take the plunge, if I can sell the Das. (I don't have the money to throw around on keyboards, unfortunately)
Edited by Maytan - 9/10/10 at 6:17pm
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