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Well I'm thinking of (finally) making the move to pick up a mechanical board!

I've looked at a bunch and I really like the XArmor U9BL, has good switches and nice features (cheesy I know, but I really like the included wrist wrest - not a fan of padded ones).
Would be used mostly for surf & game on the sig rig, any thoughts on this (should I consider some alternatives)?

Regarding the price/purchase of U9BL:

I can get it from iOne directly (meh price); the only online retailer they list is Fentek who is listing it for $150 shipped and I couldn't really find it anywhere else aside from those two.
Anyone deal with Fentek before (or know where else they're sold) or should I just suck it up and order it directly if I go for this model?
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Fentek is a good supplier, I haven't bought anything from them myself, but others have, and the person who runs it is very friendly (sometimes posts on Geekhack to announce new stuff and give information on their products)
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Originally Posted by Genkaz92 View Post
If I like the modem M that I purchased from Ebay, I might return the Deck due to it genuinely decreasing my typing performance. Apparently it has extremely weird key spacing/key size which results in me making more typing mistakes then usual. It also has relatively tough to push keys in general, I have a Dell AT101W and it's keys feel almost twice as light as on this thing.
That's due to the Cherry MX Blacks. What's happening is you're discovering why the Cherry MX Blacks are regarded to be the "worst" mechanical switch for typing.

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On other hand perhaps I should simply give it time to truly get used to it, I only had it for 18 days (which still gives me the opportunity to return it with not questions asked). I honestly have absolutely no other complaints for this thing except for the fact that I am not used to it.

I am by no means being definite in my intentions of returning this thing, but am rather listing it as a possibility, I would be more then interested in hearing your opinions, perhaps it indeed takes a longer amount of time to get used to it then merely 18 days.
I say keep the Deck as a gaming board and then get something else to compliment it which you use strictly for typing. Or, get a good keyboard that is a nice balance between both typing and gaming: many people feel that a good keyboard outfitted with the Cherry MX Browns falls into that category.

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One more thing, I am still slightly concerned of how loud the model M could possibly be compared to MX blacks, I usually always wear headphones and will most likely not disturb anyone with it, but it is still an important thing to think about. I absolutely do not regret wasting 30 bucks on that model M though, it never hurts to have a backup/secondary extremely trustworthy keyboard.
The Cherry MX Black keyswitch itself does not make any sound. Instead, any sound that is heard comes from bottoming out as well as the key popping back up. So, it's loosely related to the switch, but the switch itself doesn't click or anything: it's completely linear.

But the Model M is a clicky keyboard, and the clicks are loud. But that's the way the Buckling Spring keyswitch is.

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I would like to say again that I have virtually no other complaints about the Deck, I love the feel of it, the performance of it, the appearance of it, and virtually everything else "of it.", Including the wonderful sound that the keys make.f

In all honesty I am already significantly better at typing on it compared to when I just got it, perhaps I am just being paranoid or impatient, or both. Afterall, the two walls of text that I cooked up for this thread so far were typed on the Deck.
Maybe you're just over-thinking it or something. I mean, at the risk of sounding like the opposite of an enthusiast: at the end of the day, it is just a keyboard.

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Yes ofcourse, my apologies.

The Customizer actually sounds only slightly louder then 7G, the difference mostly appears to lie in the actual type of the sound rather then the loudness of it.
The 7G uses the Cherry MX Blacks while the Customizer uses the Buckling Springs. The 7G is a non-clicky, non-tactile keyboard while the Customizer is a clicky and tactile board. If somebody were to type on the 7G while trying to avoid bottoming out (which could be difficult - I don't know), then it would certainly be quieter than a keyboard with the Buckling Springs.

The Customizer and 7G are two very different keyboards.

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I did receive some of my impressions from the ones which managed to portray the model M's in a particularly loud manner, such as this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQI4Jtc0vak
Yuck. There are actually much better video demonstrations of the Model M. Here is a YouTube search results page for "ibm model m keyboard"

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...+keyboard&aq=f

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Please check the keyboard using the Nkey Testing Process outlined here. Almost all keyboards can report a Maximum of 5 to 6 keys. These "gaming optimized" keyboards usually do pretty well with WASD gaming but fail at 3 key combos for ESDF users and Arrow cluster for lefties.
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TwoCables told me the BlackWindow and BlackWindow Ultimate release date was pushed back all the way to October 13th.
post #7676 of 14566
Does anybody know how loud Cherry MX blues are in comparison to rubber domes?

The only one I could find was Phae's video.

Is there a list out there that ranks all the switches for sound at all?
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Rubber domes aren't as quiet as I thought. This current Logitech keyboard I have is rubber dome (I didn't do research but you can tell by the feel after it hits the receivers or whatever they're called). I imagine Mechanical Cherry MX Blues to be a little louder because mechanical is just plastic hitting this sensitive piece of metal so a little louder. I don't really know but its a guess.
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TwoCables told me the BlackWindow and BlackWindow Ultimate release date was pushed back all the way to October 13th.
It is. It even says on their site.
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Does anybody know how loud Cherry MX blues are in comparison to rubber domes?

The only one I could find was Phae's video.

Is there a list out there that ranks all the switches for sound at all?
Here is a list of good sound recordings. There's a Logitech rubber dome recording amongst them. Should give you a good idea of the noise difference.

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The 7G uses the Cherry MX Blacks while the Customizer uses the Buckling Springs. The 7G is a non-clicky, non-tactile keyboard while the Customizer is a clicky and tactile board. If somebody were to type on the 7G while trying to avoid bottoming out (which could be difficult - I don't know), then it would certainly be quieter than a keyboard with the Buckling Springs.
But given that the blacks are going to be hard to not bottom out on, they end up being noisy keyboards to type on. It's like Black Alps - they are silent when you actuate them, but they bottom out hard and are nearly as loud as a Model M when you type on them. In many cases, the 'clicky' attribute is somewhat academic when you are considering how loud the keyboard is to type on in normal circumstances.
Edited by ch_123 - 9/16/10 at 2:16pm
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Here is a list of good sound recordings. There's a Logitech rubber dome recording amongst them. Should give you a good idea of the noise difference.
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