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I have that keyboard, it's pretty nice besides the ?/ key all the way to the right of the shift key instead of in it's normal spot. But at that price, the only time you should get it over a Filco is if you want something with a numberpad to carry around with a laptop or something (it's pretty light for a mechanical board, and the same size as a tenkeyless filco). If you want a full review check the one I wrote here.

I don't mind the backspace/enter keys as much as others though, since I grew up on keyboards with them.
Edited by Manyak - 10/24/09 at 10:02pm
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I have that keyboard, it's pretty nice besides the ?/ key all the way to the right of the shift key instead of in it's normal spot. But at that price, the only time you should get it over a Filco is if you want something with a numberpad to carry around with a laptop or something (it's pretty light for a mechanical board, and the same size as a tenkeyless filco). If you want a full review check the one I wrote here.

I don't mind the backspace/enter keys as much as others though, since I grew up on keyboards with them.
I'm on that site too... that pretty cool that there is a form on keyboards alone...


That is a pretty bad place for that /? key.... I use them a lot too.... I really would not get that I-rocks keyboard now.
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I have a couple questions.

sub-dye and laser etching which one is more beneficial, why, which one is more expensive? and which is preferred.

I understand why Stiffness and the Force needed is good for gaming but why is Tactile and Click bad for gaming? are the mechanisms inside the Cherry MX Black Linear that produce these sensations not present and allows for faster depressing?

is the ABS M1 considered a gaming keyboard because the Tactileness is more subtle than say a Cherry MX Blue?

what is "Key Delay" does it have to do with the Scan Matrix or is it Debounce Time

could G80-3000LPCEU-0 be added to the list under MX Black Linear, it is widely available and significantly cheaper than the Deck Legend 105/82 Linear, SteelSeries 7G, Raptor K-1 and Filco Majestouch Linear Force at $60-70. it is a US Layout however the Number 4 Dollar sign has been replaced by the Euro Sign not sure why.

thank you.
Edited by lmnop - 10/25/09 at 9:26am
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Is there a very simple mechanical keyboard with the best gaming switches who's keys can be dyed?

I wanna dye the ESC key red, the WASD blue and maybe the numberpad yellow or something, just for yucks. I also want the keyboard to be black, and you can't dye black keys, so is there a way to buy blank beige dyeable keys?
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Originally Posted by lmnop View Post
I have a couple questions.

sub-dye and laser etching which one is more beneficial, why, which one is more expensive? and which is preferred.

I understand why Stiffness and the Force needed is good for gaming but why is Tactile and Click bad for gaming? are the mechanisms inside the Cherry MX Black Linear that produce these sensations not present and allows for faster depressing?

is the ABS M1 considered a gaming keyboard because the Tactileness is more subtle than say a Cherry MX Blue?

what is "Key Delay" does it have to do with the Scan Matrix or is it Debounce Time

could G80-3000LPCEU-0 be added to the list under MX Black Linear, it is widely available and significantly cheaper than the Deck Legend 105/82 Linear, SteelSeries 7G, Raptor K-1 and Filco Majestouch Linear Force at $60-70. it is a US Layout however the Number 4 Dollar sign has been replaced by the Euro Sign not sure why.

thank you.
Dye sublimation is better than laser etching. The etching is only a surface stain while the dye sinks into the key so it doesn't wear off for ages. Laser etching also tends to be a bit blurrier than Dye sublimation, but that all depends on the manufacturer.

Tactile bumps and clicks aren't necessarily bad for gaming, I just personally prefer Linear keys for it. You might end up with a different preference depending on what you try.

The ABS M1 is called a "gaming" keyboard because it has 6+4 key rollover, the max for USB. Keep in mind though, just because a keyboard isn't a gaming board that doesn't mean that it doesn't have 6+4, or even full n-key rollover. "Gaming" is just a word thrown in for marketing.

The Key Delay listed in the op is the shortest amount of time it takes the board to send two keystrokes one after the other. Depending on the design of the board, it may or may not include debouncing.

Can you provide a link to the G80? And that's a UK layout.


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Is there a very simple mechanical keyboard with the best gaming switches who's keys can be dyed?

I wanna dye the ESC key red, the WASD blue and maybe the numberpad yellow or something, just for yucks. I also want the keyboard to be black, and you can't dye black keys, so is there a way to buy blank beige dyeable keys?
You'll find any keycaps you want right here.


As for whole keyboards, I think the best thing for you to get would be a Topre Realforce. But if you're looking for something cheaper your best bet would be to scour ebay for a white Cherry G80 board.

A Model M is also an option, but I don't know how much you'll like it for games.
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Cherry Keyboard G80-3000LPCEU-0 (US with Euro symbol)

Source

here are some pictures.







you can buy it here for $73.42. here for $77.97. here for $78.20

I don't even think the € symbol at Number 5 (not 4, my apologies) is a con I think you get both % and € probably 6 NKRO and unfortunately it only comes in Light Grey but thats hardly anything to complain about considering the price tag which makes it the most affordable Cherry MX Black Linear Keyboard and if your thinking "iOne Scorpius M10" don't because I don't think anybody at GeekHack has ever complained about the G80 series build quality.

it's definitely a US layout with € symbol. EU layout has a Alt-Gr key on the right side this does not.
Edited by lmnop - 10/25/09 at 10:50am
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Ok yeah that's a US ANSI layout, they just stuck an extra symbol in.

But if I remember correctly it's not any fixed rollover, just whatever works.

It seems they also have one with Cherry MX Blues.

I'll add it to the OP soon
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yes but apparently it's in english AND chinese see here.
Edited by lmnop - 10/25/09 at 11:06am
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yes here is the Chinese Layout of that one you just posted.

this is interesting.
I find that somewhat more comfortable than the normal dimples, personally.
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someone else mentioned it doesn't have full 6 key rollover what exacty is "less" than 6 key rollover?

I edited my last post because there is only 1 layout english and chinese at least thats what I got from a comment "if you can live with the chinese characters"
Edited by lmnop - 10/25/09 at 11:10am
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