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If you are implying that Keyboard Manufacturers have been lying to Gamers for years about the need for NKRO versus a guaranteed 6KRO on a convenient modern interface like USB I'm shocked.
Guaranteed 6KRO? USB doesnt garant this, it limits, i would think.

Also theoretically it is possible to use the keyboard as a music board and play music. I mean not some games, just music, from a regular notation or whats it called. I once programmed a musical keyboard in Turbo Basic for the speaker. Funny times. lolol.
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That's true. There are maybe 10 people in the world that play music on their PC keyboard. Although you'd need a more complex bass line and some jazz chords on top.



Is OCN going to ding Razer's Black Widow because it uses USB only? It's 2010 people!!!
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That's true. There are maybe 10 people in the world that play music on their PC keyboard. Although you'd need a more complex bass line and some jazz chords on top.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yCDb...0F7D403833DB6B


Is OCN going to ding Razer's Black Widow because it uses USB only? It's 2010 people!!!
LOL. I like the video. I'm planning on getting a keyboard from Microsoft. Are most of Microsoft's keyboards good? I'm planning on getting the ark keyboard because I'm getting the ark touch mouse which is coming out soon. It has bluetrack technology and looks nice.
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You look like your trying to make a point ripster, but what is it? Is USB better than PS/2? I will give you that it is more convenient but is it better? This thread is all about nitpicking. We argue over minuscule amounts of force, precise points of actuation, the difference between clicky and clacky (thanks 2cables), the definition of "anti-ghosting" and other esoterica. If you want NKRO you need PS/2. 6KRO may be good enough, but do you buy the keyboard that is just good enough?
 
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You look like your trying to make a point ripster, but what is it? Is USB better than PS/2? I will give you that it is more convenient but is it better? This thread is all about nitpicking. We argue over minuscule amounts of force, precise points of actuation, the difference between clicky and clacky (thanks 2cables), the definition of "anti-ghosting" and other esoterica. If you want NKRO you need PS/2. 6KRO may be good enough, but do you buy the keyboard that is just good enough?
Yeah! This isn't "justgoodenough.net"

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My point is the Mechanical Keyboard Guide (see the original post) is out of whack.

If you guy's have the discipline to Overclock to the nth degree then staying on topic should be easy.
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Yeah! This isn't "justgoodenough.net"

NKRO and 1500W psu's for the masses!!!!!!!!
Now lets not get carried away. How about NKRO, and 800W 82+gold psu's for all reasonable people.

Other than needing another update and a summery I think the guide is just fine. Most of the knowledge I have now came from reading then arguing about that guide. My opinion that PS/2 is better but not always needed and less convenient came from reading that guide. So, its still to you to prove that USB is better.
 
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Trivia break.

Did you know the PS/2 spec was introduced by IBM along with the PS/2 line of computers in 1987, 23 years ago?


For our more modern readers IBM, Dell, HP, Logitech and Microsoft all used to offer keyboards that worked with the purple port.

Edited by ripster - 9/20/10 at 9:07pm
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  1. USB is a modern interface designed for hotplugging, Hotplugging PS/2 is not good for your motherboard unless you like to solder tiny smt fuses.
  2. Most modern keyboards ship with USB only interfaces. Do most people at OCN use PS/2 mice?
  3. If you want a Razer/Happy Hacking Keyboard/RealForce and the standard Logitech/Microsofts you better like USB since PS/2 is not an option. Plus the new nifty Microsoft Sidewinder X4 has 11KRO over USB.
  4. It's 2010 people. How long do you think motherboard manufacturers will keep it up with USB 3.0 starting to take up ports.
1: That's what I meant by more convenient. Thanks for clarifying my statement.
2. All the mother boards I looked at last week had PS/2. I have heard of the demise of it but seen no evidence. I have seen a few that only have one (and the purple/green is halved too) but that is rare still. I think it will take a few years more still.
3. Many of those keyboards support PS/2 to get NKRO don't they?
The X4 had to cheat to get 11KRO and I applaud them for it.
4. Does USB3 wave the 6 key limit? Is so I would be happy to wave goodbye to legacy ports. And I am a guy with a floppy still

And thanks for the history, I had not know that. Keep them tidbits coming.
 
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USB3 won't help the NKRO issue. In fact most keyboards are just USB 1.1 since higher speed is not necessary for a keyboard. That's partly why the latency is a non-issue. The OS and apps are what causes those annoying periodic pauses.

And USB's 6KRO is good enough for humanoids. Even the 6 fingered man approves of USB because he uses his other hand for mousing.



Meanwhile happy PS/2 keyboard users are plugging along/

Edited by ripster - 9/20/10 at 11:00pm
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