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Genkaz, have you tried any games on your Model M? How do you like it for gaming?
It is excellent for gaming, virtually as good as MX blacks in my opinion.
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It is excellent for gaming, virtually as good as MX blacks in my opinion.
I was asking more for the matrix than the keys themselves, but if they work fine for you I assume all is well.
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I was asking more for the matrix than the keys themselves, but if they work fine for you I assume all is well.
The rollover is not the absolute best, but generally more then suitable for most purposes.
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Patrick is looking at this one. We are looking for where to get them cheaper. There are a few nice boards on there if you don't mind stumbling around randomly like I did

I can still ship 'em to anyone if you want to order them from there and pay shipping + 3 Dr. Peppers. Yes, my price went up 2 pops.
 
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hehe every single time I tell somebody that I'll probably still be enjoying my Filco Majestouch 20 years from now, I usually end up sitting back and just going "Wow. That's hard to imagine! I'll be 51 years old by that time!" (although, I never actually type that)
Blue Cherries, like most switches of their type, don't age well. I have two old Blue Cherry keyboards, one aged about 12 years, the other closer to 20. If you did a blind testing with one of them, and a relatively new Filco with blue Cherries, you'd be forgiven for thinking that they used different switch types. Then again, I'm comparing a PCB mounted Cherry with a Plate mounted one, but that explains sound differences, not feel.

Whilst I do like Blue Cherry keyboards, the switches have an absolutely hideous mechanism that carries a lot of problems with them.

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If someone were to pick two mechanical switch opposites, would MX blues and buckling springs come quite close in that area? I am talking about picking opposites in the same category of clicky and tactile keys, not in the whole mechanical key spectrum.
I think it's fair to say that clicky Alps and Cherry switches are designed to emulate buckling springs, and beam springs (the predecessor of the buckling spring) so to say that there are opposites in the category of clicky switches is somewhat meaningless. In fact, the moving actuation point in the Blue Cherry that TwoCables mentions is a side effect of emulating the pre-travel on IBM-made keyboards.

The issue with Cherry, Alps, and other similar switches is that they basically took linear switch designs, and threw things on top of them to make them tactile and linear. This results in a sort of un-natural, un-smooth feel off them, and an overcomplicated mechanism that is prone to failure from dust or hairs.

There's also issues with the specific ways they implemented the tactile and/or click action - Alps switches bottom out hard because of the design of the vertical leaf they use for tactility, Cherry blues have the moving actuation point from the moving clicker, the Cherry browns are 95% linear, and the list goes on. Half of the beauty of the buckling spring is that there are only two moving parts in the mechanism (not including the keycap) and they were designed to be what they were. There wasn't a matching set of linear and non-clicky buckling springs with different coloured springs.

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Also, I would like to ask once again whether it is a good idea to preform a precaution diagnostic on my keyboard in the area of the nuts and bolts mod. I actually already opened this thing up before to check for defective hammers, and other possible switch difficulties, but somehow did not examine the actual bottom of the device whatsoever.
From that backplate, there shouldn't be anything wrong. Popped rivets are only noteworthy when there is a lot of them popped in one area.
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Hehe . Has anyone stumbled across Duckies with red switches?
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KBC did have a Ducky anniversary edition with Cherry MX Red switches to celebrate 1 year as a company. I imagine because of the Cherry MX Red shortage and nature of the model they didn't manufacture many.
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Duckies with reds would be rare indeed. $120 for a Chinese Ducky?
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if I remember correctly it uses Cherry MX Red and Black (Spacebar, Enter, etc).
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Ripster, I think this is what you're talking about


Christine... *drools* Most likely sold out/costs a fortune. Meh
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