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post #8411 of 14551
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Originally Posted by candy_van View Post
Well unless the blacks require even less force than the browns to actuate I'm not sure how I could like them less.
My problem with the browns thus far seems to be bottoming out too frequently while I type.
The Cherry MX Blacks are stiff and linear. They are probably a hair stiffer than the Clears (but I'm cheating: I'm using the OP of this thread to find out).

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Another thing I think which I think might be contributing to my dislike of the Deck while I'm gaming is the keys themselves; they're a bit narrower than those on the Das or my previous board (could be over thinking things now I suppose).
Narrower? I didn't know that!

Could it also be that it's due to the Deck being flat while the Das is sculpted?

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As for the Topres, OK different grades of resistence then; how exactly do you adjust them? (noob question)
They're not adjustable (at least they're not supposed to be adjustable - it would require a ton of work).
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post #8412 of 14551
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
The Cherry MX Blacks are stiff and linear. They are probably a hair stiffer than the Clears (but I'm cheating: I'm using the OP of this thread to find out).


Narrower? I didn't know that!

Could it also be that it's due to the Deck being flat while the Das is sculpted?

They're not adjustable (at least they're not supposed to be adjustable - it would require a ton of work).
Yep the keys are broader on the Das (along with my old board).
Wait so blacks are even stiffer than clears? Not sure how well that would work out then if I'm complaining how stiff clears are while I'm gaming

Also you ninja'd on the Topres...and I did too, but you caught me
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post #8413 of 14551
I guess I need to write a review of my realforce sometime. Most of the other people who own one seem to be too busy sitting back listening to a vinal record on their $50k speaker system, sipping a glass of brandy trying to detect the hints of oak, to go out and play games on it.
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post #8414 of 14551
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I guess I need to write a review of my realforce sometime. Most of the other people who own one seem to be too busy sitting back listening to a vinal record on their $50k speaker system, sipping a glass of brandy trying to detect the hints of oak, to go out and play games on it.
It's because unlike a Deck, Topre boards are not X-TREME!
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post #8415 of 14551
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Originally Posted by candy_van View Post
Yep the keys are broader on the Das (along with my old board).
Wait so blacks are even stiffer than clears? Not sure how well that would work out then if I'm complaining how stiff clears are while I'm gaming

Also you ninja'd on the Topres...and I did too, but you caught me
Hmm, it sounds like you need to spend some time studying the first 10 posts of this OP (or at least the ones that are useful to you).


But stay alert!
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post #8416 of 14551
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Hmm, it sounds like you need to spend some time studying the first 10 posts of this OP (or at least the ones that are useful to you).


But stay alert!
Yea, looks like I've forgotten/overlooked a few things over the past week with everything I've been taking in
Going to have to just accept the fact that testing and cutting losses is part of all this; will give the Deck another shot for gaming, and if I can't get myself to like it I'll stick with the Das for now then...
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post #8417 of 14551
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They're not adjustable (at least they're not supposed to be adjustable - it would require a ton of work).
It has been done. I'm just not sure how much effort was involved.
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post #8418 of 14551
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I guess I need to write a review of my realforce sometime. Most of the other people who own one seem to be too busy sitting back listening to a vinal record on their $50k speaker system, sipping a glass of brandy trying to detect the hints of oak, to go out and play games on it.
I've gamed on my HHKB and nobody's ever asked me.

Different actuation force but whatever.
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post #8419 of 14551
What is your opinion of the HHKB for gaming, compared to your other keyboard?
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post #8420 of 14551
I need a nice typing/looking mechanical keyboard for no more than $150. What do you guys think are good choices.
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