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And unlocked way later than I expected. Sorry about that, but I hope you guys can be nice people as well
I was starting to go through withdrawal there. I think my fingers are skinnier now.
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Its open. Thats good good. So what i was saying before interruptions, is that Fujitsu -Siemens, had but stopped making NKRO keyboards. I was going to purchase one back in 2003, but didnt. Maybe some are still around on Ebay.
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Foam Element Switch
Foam element switches, like rubber domes, came out of a need to make keyboards cheaper. The entire bottom of the pad is conductive, so the key is kept off the board by means of a spring. And underneath it you can find either a membrane sheet or a PCB. And as you can see in the picture on the bottom left, the contact area is enclosed by plastic to prevent dirt from getting underneath the pad.
Out of curiosity, why do you not count these as mechanical switches? I would consider them a type of mechanical switch, albeit a poor one.

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Mechanical Switch

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[*]Virtually no degradation - the feel remains almost constant over the lifetime of the switch
Ever use an old Black Alps or Blue Cherry keyboard? Most mechanical switch designs become unpleasant to type on long before they become unusable.

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[*]Replacement of a single switch is possible if one goes bad
Depends. I've seen people devise guides for replacing/repairing dead scissor switch and rubber dome switches that would involve a lot less effort than it would to fix a Model M or a capacitive keyboard with a dead key.
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So, I got my deck fire today. few odd things.. few keycaps were slightly lose, pressing them they clicked into place though. also the left shift, and right enter buttons were actually off. box was in good condition and the keyboard seems fully functional.

Also, I ordered a USB and it came as PS/2 and seems to work fine in the PS/2 port?

last thing is I'm not sure my thoughts on the recessed space button? seems to be about the exact same as my old old keyboard that seemed to have blue caps. (except no click half way down)
    
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Out of curiosity, why do you not count these as mechanical switches? I would consider them a type of mechanical switch, albeit a poor one.
Well, you could also consider scissor switches, reed switches, and hall effect switches mechanical. I just don't think they really count, lol.

I think the problem here is defining a mechanical switch as either having the movement/feel of the switch controlled by a mechanical mechanism, or having the electrical contact done mechanically. Kind of like how a Model F could be called either mechanical or capacitive and it would still be correct.

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Ever use an old Black Alps or Blue Cherry keyboard? Most mechanical switch designs become unpleasant to type on long before they become unusable.
Sure have. Buckling Springs, MX Blues, Black Alps, White Alps, and SMK Montereys. I don't think Black Alps are a fair comparison to anything else because they just suck in general... but the others felt just fine. Well, the Buckling Springs were kind of uneven between keys, but as you know that's normal, and I felt it to the same effect on my brand new Unicomp.


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Depends. I've seen people devise guides for replacing/repairing dead scissor switch and rubber dome switches that would involve a lot less effort than it would to fix a Model M or a capacitive keyboard with a dead key.
But the real question here is - where the hell do you get the replacement domes from? If you harvest them from a random keyboard they won't even feel remotely the same. At least with mechanical switches you can order a single one on it's own for like $1 (from Digikey or whatever supplier you like), and all it takes is a few days of typing and the brand new switch sets in like the rest of them.

And the Model M is the easiest one of all most of the time..... pull the keycap off, pull the spring out, and twist a new spring in and set it using a pair of tweezers. Done. Only if you busted the hammer somehow is it a problem.
Edited by Manyak - 10/6/10 at 5:13pm
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I swear to god if you don't update the mechanical keyboard guide i'm going to hunt you down like you owe me child support


Edited by lmnop - 10/6/10 at 5:16pm
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I swear to god if you don't update the mechanical keyboard guide i'm going to hunt you down like you owe me child support
LOL I swear I already started rewriting it.

I could use some help if you want to update the list of keyboards though.

And you're going to see the text updated way before the pictures. I'm still waiting for a frickin camera that I was supposed to have 3 weeks ago.
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So, I got my deck fire today. few odd things.. few keycaps were slightly lose, pressing them they clicked into place though. also the left shift, and right enter buttons were actually off. box was in good condition and the keyboard seems fully functional.

Also, I ordered a USB and it came as PS/2 and seems to work fine in the PS/2 port?

last thing is I'm not sure my thoughts on the recessed space button? seems to be about the exact same as my old old keyboard that seemed to have blue caps. (except no click half way down)
sorry to hear. contact Deck technical support and ask if you can exchange it for a USB model.

the Linear models have a Cherry MX Grey switch in the spacebar. (80cN, Linear)

the spacebar is also recessed.

they explained why they did it on the forums but I forgot to bookmark it.
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