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What is it that you don't like about them?
I guess my preference stems from using the older dell keyboards at school with the big noisy punchy keys. I didn't like how they felt or how much effort it took to type with them. I then moved onto laptop keyboards and loved how easy they were to touch type with. Naturally, when I buit my first pc and purchased my own keyboard I bought one with similar profiles to laptop keys, though I don't get the same satisfaction out of it that I did with the laptop. I've just never liked big tall keys since. I can honestly say I've never tried any of the new mechanical keyboards with the cherry mx switches in them. I don't even know where one would go to try out one.
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post #9612 of 14551
The old Dell keyboards you hated were rubber domes.

Laptop keyboards are scissor switches.

Scissor switches are closer to mechanicals than to rubber domes.



You didn't dislike the Dells because they had full travel keys, you disliked the Dells because they were terrible high-force rubber dome keyboards.

Either that or they were old Dell AT101s with complicated black Alps switches, which aren't much better than crappy rubber domes.
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So today I have my 1 year old daughter to look after by myself. After a McDonald's I went to the local computer department store. It was vaguely disappointing. 20 or 30 small stores all selling the same %95 of stuff with one or 2 items unique in each store. And no one speaks English!

On the way home I see a store I have passed many times and dismissed as just a 3C (sorta the Wallmart of computers). But something caught my eye. I go in and am quite impressed. They have good headphones, a good selection of cases and power supplies and in general a step up from normal. I am wandering around in a happy daze when I hear angles singing over my left shoulder. I look up and what do I see:

A whole row of Mechanical Keyboards. There are 3 (THREE!) filco's sitting side by side. I could click a black, brown and blue at the same time AT THE SAME TIME! Steelseries, sidwinder x4 and x6, and others. The Irocks was not even worthy to sit there and was on a whole other shelf. They seem to be about the same price as PCHome and Army group too, so bonus. Now I got to convince the wife.

I can ship you one if you want. They had English only or with Chinese, but I did not see any 10key less ones. They can order though if you are desperate. My usual deal is cost+1 Dr. Pepper. This is not a great deal but they are there. I do this so they start seeing me as a valued customer and making with the better deals. Like the all pink Filco they told me about.
 
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post #9614 of 14551
Pink Filco is pink. I'm surprised you were surprised to see mechanical keyboards in a shop. You live in the mechanical keyboard center of the world.
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I have found Taiwan to be the maker off all things good but the user of none. Many products made here can only be sold here if first imported back to Taiwan from the tax free zones. Its hard to buy an actual Foxcon mobo for instance while Gigabyte, MSI and Acer are everywhere.

Last computex I asked everyone if they had mechanical boards and only POS even knew what they were. Other than the thermaltake. like I said above, vaguely disappointing.

For keyboards the best I have ever seen in stock is this I-rocks, and I bought it
 
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I remember I-Rocks. They had this strange marketing strategy spearheaded by a metrosexual guy/girl apparently cloned from a Keanu Reeves mole. I am not sure who they were trying to address. Apparently gamers.

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Aww. I got the 6230. But I like that ones lay out a bit better. The ? key is in the better place. Is that one mechanical? They don't mention and I got mine because it has browns; or Tea colour as we say here

I'll have to go look at that one. That guy looks like several of my friends here. If you can't tell the difference between a guy and a girl I suggest you stay out of Thailand
 
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The old Dell keyboards you hated were rubber domes.

Laptop keyboards are scissor switches.

Scissor switches are closer to mechanicals than to rubber domes.



You didn't dislike the Dells because they had full travel keys, you disliked the Dells because they were terrible high-force rubber dome keyboards.

Either that or they were old Dell AT101s with complicated black Alps switches, which aren't much better than crappy rubber domes.
Sounds like he was talking about a Dell AT alright...
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I guess my preference stems from using the older dell keyboards at school with the big noisy punchy keys. I didn't like how they felt or how much effort it took to type with them. I then moved onto laptop keyboards and loved how easy they were to touch type with. Naturally, when I buit my first pc and purchased my own keyboard I bought one with similar profiles to laptop keys, though I don't get the same satisfaction out of it that I did with the laptop. I've just never liked big tall keys since. I can honestly say I've never tried any of the new mechanical keyboards with the cherry mx switches in them. I don't even know where one would go to try out one.
Yeah, well I personally guarantee you that this is absolutely not now a good mechanical keyboard feels that has a Cherry MX type of switch (like Brown, Blue, Clear, etc).

To try and prove it, here's my experience: for close to 8 or 9 years, I had this keyboard (not my picture) which is a Dell RT7D10 - it's just some cheap $15-20 rubber dome board. But I loved it because of the media keys and also because I didn't know any better; to me, all keyboards were the same except for their external features and appearance. I didn't know that I could have a keyboard that feels better to type on.

But then almost a year ago now I upgraded to the Razer Lycosa and I loved it. To me, it felt like a superior keyboard in every way. However, I didn't know that the reason why it felt superior was because it wasn't old and worn out like that Dell board (I didn't understand the way rubber dome boards wear out). I mean, the rubber sheet inside of the Lycosa was fresh and new while the Dell's was older and a bit worn out, and so that's why I liked the Lycosa. In fact, I liked the Lycosa so much that I highly recommended it every chance I got. One of my favorite things were the low-profile keys!! I was convinced that it was much easier to type on this keyboard due to the keys being of the low-profile variety (but this is not a scissor-switch keyboard), and it was because I didn't understand yet that the only reason why I liked it was because it was a brand new rubber dome keyboard while my old rubber dome was on its last leg. So at this point, I decided that I was never again going to get a keyboard with the standard-sized keys.

But then to make a very long story short, I started having some technical problems with the Lycosa and eventually ended up upgrading to the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO (currently temporarily not available), and that changed everything. This keyboard is dramatically and significantly superior to both that Dell board I had as well as that Lycosa. Now I completely understand why there's a very strong following of good mechanical keyboards! I enjoy each and every keystroke; typing is actually fun now. The sound of typing is pleasing to my ears. My keyboard looks really nice, sophisticated and classy. My keyboard is nice and heavy and feels like it's permanently attached to my desk (that is, while I'm using it). It just feels very solid. It's just significantly superior in every way imaginable!

In other words, I think Phaedrus2129 is right: those Dell boards you were forced to use were likely not very good at all.
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So today I have my 1 year old daughter to look after by myself. After a McDonald's I went to the local computer department store. It was vaguely disappointing. 20 or 30 small stores all selling the same %95 of stuff with one or 2 items unique in each store. And no one speaks English!

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A whole row of Mechanical Keyboards. There are 3 (THREE!) filco's sitting side by side. I could click a black, brown and blue at the same time AT THE SAME TIME! Steelseries, sidwinder x4 and x6, and others. The Irocks was not even worthy to sit there and was on a whole other shelf. They seem to be about the same price as PCHome and Army group too, so bonus. Now I got to convince the wife.

I can ship you one if you want. They had English only or with Chinese, but I did not see any 10key less ones. They can order though if you are desperate. My usual deal is cost+1 Dr. Pepper. This is not a great deal but they are there. I do this so they start seeing me as a valued customer and making with the better deals. Like the all pink Filco they told me about.
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