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Originally Posted by fssbzz View Post
Might just be me, but a lot of the features remind me of the Ducky keyboards (i.e. LEDs for the lock keys in the switches, detachable USB, along with the cable routing, and I think they also use Cherry stabilizers, if I'm not mistaken).
post #9903 of 14567
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Originally Posted by Ikrin View Post
Might just be me, but a lot of the features remind me of the Ducky keyboards (i.e. LEDs for the lock keys in the switches, detachable USB, along with the cable routing, and I think they also use Cherry stabilizers, if I'm not mistaken).
Right, though Leopolds do the lasered lettering better but lack the 4 extra media keys and FN functions. If you don't mind those 2 omissions then the Leopold may be the better option.
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I think Ducky keyboards also offer the option to switch the left Windows key with caps lock or something like that.
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Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp View Post
Right, though Leopolds do the lasered lettering better but lack the 4 extra media keys and FN functions. If you don't mind those 2 omissions then the Leopold may be the better option.
erm how did they do better Lasered lettering?
how you judge it?

Ducky got Laser PBT Keycap too. but i really don't know how to judge a Lasered Lettering good or bad

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Originally Posted by Ikrin View Post
I think Ducky keyboards also offer the option to switch the left Windows key with caps lock or something like that.
Ducky Has Win LOCK, Ctrl_L swap with Capslock, WIN and ALT swap location.
post #9906 of 14567
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erm how did they do better Lasered lettering?
how you judge it?

Ducky got Laser PBT Keycap too. but i really don't know how to judge a Lasered Lettering good or bad
The contrast is better on Leopolds. I don't know what kind of keycaps they use, but that may have something to do with it.
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Yea looks good, would like the full size though, and still...kinda likin' the Filco better than the one I found :/
We'll see, I'm sure once they land on EK I'll have a lot more to see/read.

Out of curiousity, what of Filco's distribution here?
I can't find a darn thing about them other than what EK ever had.
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I don't know if there are even Swedish keyboards with reds, so you'll have to go with that brown Filco.
But I think the Topre Realforce is even lighter, and there's one here:
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_d...sp?PRODUCT=793

Technically they're lighter, but I've never used them and they're expensive as hell.
I talked to bruce at the keyboard co. Apparently the topre doesnt support ps/2 which makes full n-kro impossible.
On http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_d...sp?PRODUCT=793 it says "The subtle gold on black keycaps with their tactile feel and N Key Rollover ensure fast and accurate input."

When I point this out, instead of adjusting their website bruce justifies what the website says by explaining "Ouch.
I stand by every word on our website.
I'll try and explain.

The thing with Topre is that they set out to make the best typing keyboard they could, and the statement is correct in that sense. Thinking office workers, in Japan.
Gaming came along and also loved their product but the NKR is the same. Typing, you may bump two letters into each other, possibly three, but there is no need for NKR beyond that.
Gaming, you may need to press 4 or 5,commands at once depending on what you play, assuming you use a mouse and don't have any other body part spare, you never need 6 even.
Or that's my understanding of how it works, though I will admit it is a complicated subject."

Personally if I´m buying a 200 euro keyboard I at least want some accurate information, not a bunch of lies.

Edit: Now that I think about it they never said 'Full' n-kro, so I guess their info is accurate after all.
Edited by Conditioned - 12/8/10 at 10:54pm
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Hi all,can i ask you for your opinions and thoughts on this cherry keyboard.

Im hoping to find something for my first mechanical keyboard thats going to be ok for some gaming action and just general use.


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Originally Posted by Conditioned View Post
I talked to bruce at the keyboard co. Apparently the topre doesnt support ps/2 which makes full n-kro impossible.
On http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_d...sp?PRODUCT=793 it says "The subtle gold on black keycaps with their tactile feel and N Key Rollover ensure fast and accurate input."

When I point this out, instead of adjusting their website bruce justifies what the website says by explaining "Ouch.
I stand by every word on our website.
I'll try and explain.

The thing with Topre is that they set out to make the best typing keyboard they could, and the statement is correct in that sense. Thinking office workers, in Japan.
Gaming came along and also loved their product but the NKR is the same. Typing, you may bump two letters into each other, possibly three, but there is no need for NKR beyond that.
Gaming, you may need to press 4 or 5,commands at once depending on what you play, assuming you use a mouse and don't have any other body part spare, you never need 6 even.
Or that's my understanding of how it works, though I will admit it is a complicated subject."

Personally if I´m buying a 200 euro keyboard I at least want some accurate information, not a bunch of lies.

Edit: Now that I think about it they never said 'Full' n-kro, so I guess their info is accurate after all.
But what Bruce doesn't understand is that using "N Key Rollover" means full N Key Rollover. I mean, what he needs to understand is that almost every mechanical keyboard that has full N Key Rollover either uses "N Key Rollover" to describe it, or just "NKRO". This is due to what the "N" means in "N Key Rollover"/"NKRO".

So it is still incorrect. He needs to correct it by saying "the key rollover", or "the matrix used provides good key rollover". He also needs to make sure to say somewhere that it's still 6KRO, or 6 Key Rollover. I mean, he needs to say that USB spec limits us to 6 simultaneous key presses plus 4 modifiers.

In other words, he needs to understand the difference between "N Key Rollover" and "6 Key Rollover".
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