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Hey guys!

So i had this idea the other day, and i'm looking for advice as to whether it seems worthwhile or is a waste of time and money.

Considering that SSDs are so much quicker than conventional HDDs i was thinking of purchasing one, but as we all know the prices are astronomical! Since it would cost me an arm and a leg to deploy a larger size SSD in my system, i'm thinking about purchasing a smaller SSD and using it purely as the drive that i store my operating system on, and in the meantime i can use my 2x150GB Raptors in Raid-0 for storing everything else.

My questions:

Will OS performance (boot time, etc...) be better than it is on the Raptors?

Will my system benefit as a whole from this kind of configuration?

Will it even work?

I figure since Vista x64 takes up a considerable amount of space i could probably purchase a 20gb SSD in order to cover the OS size and updates/patches.

Oh, and if my overkill idea is feasible, what SSD do you guys recommend? I was considering OCZ for the value, but i've been burnt by their products before...
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You shouldn't use Raptors for storage.... no point really. Sell em for bigger drives.

You need to read up on SSD before deciding: http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3531


There are very few SSDs that make good OS drives. You can't just get any old one.
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i hear that ssds make for faster boot times in the order of 5-10 seconds faster.
if your going to stick vista x64 on a drive make sure its at least 40 to 50 gb. i made the mistake once of putting vista on a 30gb partition and it bloated up so fast due to drivers and whatnot that i had to resize the partition.
Edited by RoboGrassanoid - 4/15/09 at 10:34am
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Huge article, should benefit everyone - great find Duckie!
    
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Thanks for the quick reply, i'm reading the link you posted right now. In the meantime...

I shouldn't use Raptors for storage? I should mention i use them primarily for gaming and recording videos in game via Fraps. This is why i purchased them, but i currently use them in a Raid-0 setup as my primary drive. Is there a better way of using them? I was considering partitioning the drive in for the OS and then for everything else. Is there a better way of organizing them?

I'm completely open for suggestions from those of you who have experience with the setups that you recommend. Let me know how you best utilize your Raptors!!!
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To RoboGrassanoid:

Thanks for the heads up on Vista's bloating ( lmao, sounds funny ). I'll definitely reconsider the size of my SSD if you guys here on Overclock.net recommend this idea i was thinking about using!
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Originally Posted by TheDevilsWaffle View Post
Thanks for the quick reply, i'm reading the link you posted right now. In the meantime...

I shouldn't use Raptors for storage? I should mention i use them primarily for gaming and recording videos in game via Fraps. This is why i purchased them, but i currently use them in a Raid-0 setup as my primary drive. Is there a better way of using them? I was considering partitioning the drive in for the OS and then for everything else. Is there a better way of organizing them?

I'm completely open for suggestions from those of you who have experience with the setups that you recommend. Let me know how you best utilize your Raptors!!!
Read the article about SSD... it's great.

As for the Raptors.... it is sorta pointless in spending $1/1GB for storage when you can got $1/10GB. The purpose of Raptors is performance so using them as OS/app drives are fine. However, storing videos or photos on them is pretty inefficent use of them.
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DuckiHo,

If you don't mind me asking, how do you have your HDDs setup/partitioned? If i'm trying to get the most performance for gaming/CS4 apps out of my 2x150GB Raptors what should i be considering?

Btw, thanks again for the article, looks like that guy got burnt by OCZ 2 times before they finally got it right for him! Very good article, +1rep!
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Well I got a 30GB OCZ core V2 today, (won it by accident on Ebay) so I set it up with Vista on, and followed the OCZ setup guide. Well after a few hours I'm back on my Seagate & will instead install games & slow loading apps to the SSD. I was particularly keen on seeing improved boot times, which I did, however the OS wasn't responsive, reminded me of my Acer One, with random short pauses. There are fixes, but time spent tuning was worth it. My opinion is that 30GB is just too small! Next time I'll remember to randomly bid on at least a 60GB.

Benchmarks were relatively inconsistent too, peak xfer of 142 MB/s and lows of .5MB/s on HD Tune.

Overall, my cluttered Vista install on this Barracuda 320 feels more responsive than the fresh install on the SSD.

Incidentally, having just run HDtune on the now empty SSD my lows are now 100+ MB/sec, shame I didn't run benches at different stages on install to test it out.

Very useful OCZ SSD guide
Edited by Antho - 4/16/09 at 5:07pm
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