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You got 1600MHz on the ram, but the timings are really loose. Try getting those down to the 7-7-7 area.

Also, if you don't want to increase cpu vcore, keep the core speed at what you have it, but try pushing the Northbridge frequency higher. You won't get any more benefit out of increasing that HT Link any higher.
Is the best way to do this to slowly bring down the timings and run memtest #5 and #8 after each new config? Will I have to increase the DRAM Voltage any to do this?
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post #1702 of 5692
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Is the best way to do this to slowly bring down the timings and run memtest #5 and #8 after each new config? Will I have to increase the DRAM Voltage any to do this?
Yes for initial testing. But for a full stability test that will catch things memtest won't, it needs to be Prime 95 Blend for 3 hours

Depending on your ram, it may like higher or lower voltage. Start with stock. Voltage should be a last resort.
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Someone please help me figure this out. I would safely assume that a large portion of 955 owners are having issues with stability over 3.6 (myself included). I've set my settings in the BIOS to optimize the performance of my 400mhz OC, but I'm still not satisfied and I'm quite confused as to why I can't get my system to OC past this number without going completely unstable. The problem is, my Gigabyte MA770T will not allow me to mess with the FSB multiplier without the system going crazy. This doesn't matter if the FSB is raised or lowered, it's still unstable and I'm frequently getting the message "system voltage is not optimized" in my BIOS. I've never seen this message on ASUS C2Q boards which is frustrating nonetheless.

I do not know how to get rid of the "system voltage is not optimized" message, or to at least get the processor stable by means of increasing the core clock, and not the default multiplier numerals. And for the life of me, someone please tell me the difference between NB VID and NB Voltage. One screws up the other... always.
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ur not the only one confused.. im trying to oc mine.. X_X
 
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Someone please help me figure this out. I would safely assume that a large portion of 955 owners are having issues with stability over 3.6 (myself included). I've set my settings in the BIOS to optimize the performance of my 400mhz OC, but I'm still not satisfied and I'm quite confused as to why I can't get my system to OC past this number without going completely unstable. The problem is, my Gigabyte MA770T will not allow me to mess with the FSB multiplier without the system going crazy. This doesn't matter if the FSB is raised or lowered, it's still unstable and I'm frequently getting the message "system voltage is not optimized" in my BIOS. I've never seen this message on ASUS C2Q boards which is frustrating nonetheless.

I do not know how to get rid of the "system voltage is not optimized" message, or to at least get the processor stable by means of increasing the core clock, and not the default multiplier numerals. And for the life of me, someone please tell me the difference between NB VID and NB Voltage. One screws up the other... always.

You need more cpu voltage and air cooling will not do the job. I needed 1.58V to get to 3.586Ghz.
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You need more cpu voltage and air cooling will not do the job. I needed 1.58V to get to 3.586Ghz.
Not necessarily. I know we all deal with trial and error, and I don't doubt your system needed that cooling for 3.8. I still, however, believe that it would be possible to do 3.7 on air, but I cannot figure out stable voltages/Hz Increases to get it to do so. 3.7 should realistically be possible in the 1.46V-1.50V range, and the temps would not be astronomical.
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its not that air cooling wont do the job.. its that his air cooling isnt sufficient enough... zalmans are only good for stock or light overclocks.. anything more than that wont be good... esp on the quads.
 
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its not that air cooling wont do the job.. its that his air cooling isnt sufficient enough... zalmans are only good for stock or light overclocks.. anything more than that wont be good... esp on the quads.
At 3.6, my max (full load) temps are steady at 55-56°C. I don't think my Zalman cooler is the contributing factor to my instability. (EDIT: For reference, my system has been stable at 3.6 [24x7])
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thanks slappa I will get the 945 in a few days with my new asus crosshair III mobo, so i look forward to posting my overclock results.
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You need more cpu voltage and air cooling will not do the job. I needed 1.58V to get to 3.586Ghz.
Ehh thats not true.

My preview retail (which was supplied by amd) is actually worse than the retails. That being said, I have one of the top aircooling setups.

Bottom line is, I got 3840MHz 100% stable, with a NB clock of 2640MHz.

This is really good performance.

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thanks slappa I will get the 945 in a few days with my new asus crosshair III mobo, so i look forward to posting my overclock results.

NP, Just don't feel lonely if you are the only 945 user on the chart

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At 3.6, my max (full load) temps are steady at 55-56°C. I don't think my Zalman cooler is the contributing factor to my instability. (EDIT: For reference, my system has been stable at 3.6 [24x7])

That is very high for 3.6GHz. Yes I believe your cooler is holding you back. My setup, I never go over 51C and I'm at 3.84GHz and 1.472V

That being said, a lot of people have very high ambients right now as it is summer, so that could be a factor as well.

Just keep in mind that these Phenom II's scale with even the smallest amount of temperature drop (2-3 degrees)
Edited by Slappa - 7/26/09 at 6:27pm
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