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Hey there fellow OC'ers,

OK at the advice of you guys I ran Prime @ 4.0ghz and my temps went through the roof, way past 60*c! I'm talking seconds here! I could actually watch them rise. Then my cpu temp alarm went off (I set it in the bios to do so). And the the BSD!

I was running the vcore @ 1.5v so I bumped it down to 1.42v. Still same thing.

Right now I'm at 44*c idle but I have been messing with my computer.

Cooling the case isn't an issue. See my system specs for my case. Plus I have a CoolMaster Gemini copper piped cpu fan (120mm).

I thought that it might be my thermal paste so I went and redid that. Still same thing.

The weird thing is I can run Flight Simulator X with all the performance sliders set to max and no problem. And I run multiple apps at the same time with Media Monkey playing tunes in the back round with no problems.

I've been running very stable (for what I do) @ 4.0ghz w/1.42v now for a few days. But Prime just kills me.

Any ideas or suggestions??

Thanks

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Guys.. I need a really detailed overclocking guide. Coming over from intel has turned me into a blind man at an orgy. I really have no idea how to overclock this beast. Any good guide's out there?
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Originally Posted by pokeey View Post
Hey there fellow OC'ers,

OK at the advice of you guys I ran Prime @ 4.0ghz and my temps went through the roof, way past 60*c! I'm talking seconds here! I could actually watch them rise. Then my cpu temp alarm went off (I set it in the bios to do so). And the the BSD!

I was running the vcore @ 1.5v so I bumped it down to 1.42v. Still same thing.

Right now I'm at 44*c idle but I have been messing with my computer.

Cooling the case isn't an issue. See my system specs for my case. Plus I have a CoolMaster Gemini copper piped cpu fan (120mm).

I thought that it might be my thermal paste so I went and redid that. Still same thing.

The weird thing is I can run Flight Simulator X with all the performance sliders set to max and no problem. And I run multiple apps at the same time with Media Monkey playing tunes in the back round with no problems.

I've been running very stable (for what I do) @ 4.0ghz w/1.42v now for a few days. But Prime just kills me.

Any ideas or suggestions??

Thanks

Chris
That idle is far too high. What compound are you using?

EDIT: I use that same cooler. Do you have the stock fan? I highly recommend an upgrade, especially if your bios will let you PWM control the fan speed (with a 3 pin fan)

I plan to pull the MB today and install a Scythe I have laying around:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185054

Be warned, that thing is a little loud when it's fully cranked, but flows tons more air.

I also have this fan in the case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999344

It is very quiet, even at 100%, and claims 40db, while the scythe claims 45db. I believe the scythe is lieing. haha

I definately recommend a GOOD quality fan on the CPU, especially with that cooler. Aim for something in the 40db range with 120+CFM. 4pin if you can, 3pin if you bios will let you configure it with PWM (only requires 3 pins)

RE-EDIT:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185060

Not to spam newegg, I just buy most of my stuff there. I did some looking and this looks like a nice one to put on your CPU cooler. 110CFM is as good as the silverstone, and <40db is very quiet. Only 2000rpms too. PWM tuning is pretty easy, provided your bios allows it. I may replace some case fans (especially the silverstone, it's not a 3pin which bothers me.)

That will help temps, and should help ram/nb temps as well (provided you mounted the thing right.)

Also, if you are using AS5, you need to let it cure for a few weeks (run prime95 once a day or so, or overnight, every night) to heat cycle it. Let it shut down and completely cool off as well, once a day. It takes a while to cure that stuff before it will give you the temps you want. I'm in this process right now and not pushing the OC over 3.5ghz until I get 3-4*c lower temps.
Edited by Chisleu - 2/28/10 at 9:34am
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Guys.. I need a really detailed overclocking guide. Coming over from intel has turned me into a blind man at an orgy. I really have no idea how to overclock this beast. Any good guide's out there?
read the first post.
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Chisleu,

Thanks for the reply. I'm using the complete Coolmaster setup with the 120mm fan.

It's four pin and I have it running at max (1800rmp) constantly. Plus it only makes about 21dba. Very quiet. I also have all my case fans running at full (I don't know the speed because they use the 12v rail instead of sucking power from the mobo).

Thermal paste I forgot, I threw away the tube but I think it was from CoolMaster. Put about a 1mm layer of it on. Only been on for a few days.

Right now I am doing some web site editing so I have 3 apps open for that, I am photo editing and I am playing Media Monkey, plus have about 15 FireFox windows open. I know that this isn't a whole ton of stress. But my temps are 41*c. I'm only @ 5% cpu usage.

I just don't get it. It's gotta be the transfer of heat from the cpu to the heatsink via the thermal paste.

But as I said I can run Flight Simulator X full bore with now problems. It is actually a resource intensive game when you set it up for actual training.

Another thing that is weird is when I went to change the thermal paste, after failing Prime for the 20th time or so, the chip wasn't even hot to the touch. It had about 5 mins to dissipate heat with no fan running. It was over 60*c when I shut her down and tore her apart.



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Originally Posted by pokeey View Post
Chisleu,

Thanks for the reply. I'm using the complete Coolmaster setup with the 120mm fan.

It's four pin and I have it running at max (1800rmp) constantly. Plus it only makes about 21dba. Very quiet. I also have all my case fans running at full (I don't know the speed because they use the 12v rail instead of sucking power from the mobo).

Thermal paste I forgot, I threw away the tube but I think it was from CoolMaster. Put about a 1mm layer of it on. Only been on for a few days.

Right now I am doing some web site editing so I have 3 apps open for that, I am photo editing and I am playing Media Monkey, plus have about 15 FireFox windows open. I know that this isn't a whole ton of stress. But my temps are 41*c. I'm only @ 5% cpu usage.

I just don't get it. It's gotta be the transfer of heat from the cpu to the heatsink via the thermal paste.

But as I said I can run Flight Simulator X full bore with now problems. It is actually a resource intensive game when you set it up for actual training.

Another thing that is weird is when I went to change the thermal paste, after failing Prime for the 20th time or so, the chip wasn't even hot to the touch. It had about 5 mins to dissipate heat with no fan running. It was over 60*c when I shut her down and tore her apart.



Chris
i would suggest loading bios defaults and starting from scratch. work your way up slowly and surely, blending all the way through.
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I knew someone was going to suggest that! :

Back to the drawing board, er, bios.

Thanks man.

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FSX only uses 1 core at 100% and then puts a fairly small load on the remaining cores when I run it. Nothing will get your CPU as hot as Prime.
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i would suggest loading bios defaults and starting from scratch. work your way up slowly and surely, blending all the way through.
Absolutely. It appears 4ghz is not for your chip, especially not on that weak fan. It does not put out nearly as much as the 130CFM fan I tested earlier. I was going to swap it in, but for some reason, when I ran the 130CFM fan it crashed my system. This setup was totally stable (3hr primed twice) and I put the fan on and it crashed before hitting max temps (idle temp was much lower though. haha.)

I have no idea why. I didn't try putting it on my +12v rail.

people running 4ghz on air cooling are using much larger and better cooling solutions than our low profile coolers. I recommend aimming for 3.7-3.8ghz. That is a much easier goal on our coolers. I'm stable at 3.5ghz 1.4v (200x17.5). I've not tried dropping voltage, or going above it yet. This cooler is not capable of much higher voltages. 1.45v gets close to 60*C (my case fans are setup with custom heat activation. I effectively have 33*C ambient ATM.)

I'm not going to 4ghz. If I can get 3.5ghz->3.8ghz stable with a raised FSB I will be very happy.

http://chisleu.wordpress.com/2010/02...ore-difficult/

I've started a blog at wordpress. Kind of compressing knowledge I've found here and elsewhere and as a reference for myself in my overclocking quest.

I also spent some time today overclocking my HD4200 (the HD5830 won't be here until Weds, replacing an RMA's 5770)

I got it from 500mhz to 800mhz core clock, a 60% increase, with a 30+% FPS increase in 2 different Heaven Benchmark settings, with a grand total of .060v increase! epic!

Definately more room there, but I don't need it. Just did it for fun and because I know the 4200 is really kinda underclocked. My board's "recommended settings" in the bios is 650. Some have pushed as hard as 1ghz!
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