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I have a question about OC'ing my 965 BE. My system specs are in my sig rig. So, here goes.

I am new to overclocking and when I set up the auto tune for my MoBo it clocked my CPU up to 3.6 from 3.4, not a huge jump, but cool with me. I have read up on how to overclock and I have made some failed attempts at getting it past 3.6. I started with just trying to adjust the multiplier, but I could not get it stable past what the MoBo clocked it too.

Okay, now my question. My Core Voltage, according to CPU-Z, is at 1.48V. I have read that these chips can only handle up to 1.55V, so if that is the truth then am I out of luck? Did I just get an unlucky chip? From what I know, the voltage will help stabilize an OC after fiddling with the multiplier.

Here are the specs right now:

Core Speed: 3684.47 MHz
NB Speed: 2167.25 MHz
HT ref. Clock: 216.73 MHz
Voltage: 1.48V
Multiplier: 17x
NB Multiplier: 10x
RAM timings: 9-9-9-24-1T

When testing my OC I could get it to boot most of the time, but it always failed in prime95, one time it passed 3DMark11 but failed in prime95. So now I am just stuck with what the MoBo auto clocked it to. I have a sinking feeling that my RAM may be a weak link in the system.
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place and any help or explanation would be greatly appreciated.

just try 200 HT 18 multi
1.48v is getting on up there, what was your max temperature? try lowering the voltage to like 1.4
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My temps are around 51C after 5 hrs of prime95 so I'm good there. It idles around 31-37C, but usually the fans are turned lower because I do not need them full blast all day.

Would you recommend just using the BIOS? I installed AMD OverDrive but I have not played with it yet. I used the BIOS when I have attempted to OC before.
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i would just stick with the bios, i tryed the AMD overdrive and i did not like it much. My sat around 25C at idle with the same cooler at 4040Mhz and would hit 52C on full load for extend period. I had mine at about 1.425v with multiplier of 21 i dont remember any of my other settings
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I need to get into the nitty gritty again when I have some time, maybe tomorrow evening. Is it going to kill my computer doing the restarts and failed tests, BSOD's and such? Or, is it cool as long as it does not over heat?
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My temps are around 51C after 5 hrs of prime95 so I'm good there. It idles around 31-37C, but usually the fans are turned lower because I do not need them full blast all day.
Would you recommend just using the BIOS? I installed AMD OverDrive but I have not played with it yet. I used the BIOS when I have attempted to OC before.

that's still a huge amount of voltage for only 3.6.
I'm running JUST below 3.6 as my daily, with a very old 955. (seriously, a 2 year old chip) Even still, I'm below 1.4V
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I need to get into the nitty gritty again when I have some time, maybe tomorrow evening. Is it going to kill my computer doing the restarts and failed tests, BSOD's and such? Or, is it cool as long as it does not over heat?
That will not hurt your computer, mind you, repeated BSOD's will eventually hurt windows, but after a while, and it depends what you're doing. If you're doing a windows update, and you BSOD, that will do much more damage than sitting at the desktop idle and having it crash. Keep in mind, that windows is written to deal with crashes, hence it BSOD's and doesn't simply blow a whole through your motherboard.

If I was you, I'd scrap the whole software overclock garbage, and forget about auto setting anything.

Set your ref.clock at 200Mhz, and just rip on the multipliers to rough set everything, and then fine tune using the ref. clock.

For starters, start at stock voltage all around, and increase your Northbridge, initially, as that will give you the best performance clock per clock over just the CPU. DOING THIS IS THE BIOS!

TL;DR
Use your BIOS, set everything back to stock. Ramp up NB, test, keep it just below the BSOD range. Then run up the CPU, adjusting voltages along the way for stability.
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that's still a huge amount of voltage for only 3.6.
I'm running JUST below 3.6 as my daily, with a very old 955. (seriously, a 2 year old chip) Even still, I'm below 1.4V
That will not hurt your computer, mind you, repeated BSOD's will eventually hurt windows, but after a while, and it depends what you're doing. If you're doing a windows update, and you BSOD, that will do much more damage than sitting at the desktop idle and having it crash. Keep in mind, that windows is written to deal with crashes, hence it BSOD's and doesn't simply blow a whole through your motherboard.
If I was you, I'd scrap the whole software overclock garbage, and forget about auto setting anything.
Set your ref.clock at 200Mhz, and just rip on the multipliers to rough set everything, and then fine tune using the ref. clock.
For starters, start at stock voltage all around, and increase your Northbridge, initially, as that will give you the best performance clock per clock over just the CPU. DOING THIS IS THE BIOS!
TL;DR
Use your BIOS, set everything back to stock. Ramp up NB, test, keep it just below the BSOD range. Then run up the CPU, adjusting voltages along the way for stability.

I am deffinitley going to stick with the BIOS, it is what I have been using and I like and know the set up.

I felt like it was a lot for just a 3.6 clock. Last night before I passed out I set up the vcore to only 1.43v and my multiplier to 18x and I got a stable 3.6 clock on my own. (the other 3.6 clock was from the MoBo's turbo setting). I am honestly wondering if my CPU is just not going to hit 4.0 since I have not been able to get something stable above 3.6, but I still have a grip of learning and whole heaps of trial and error ahead of me. My CPU just seems power hungry at the moment. Thanks for the quick replies, I am going to try and work on it today.
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So far I have 3.8 stabe on prime95 for the last five hours. I am going to let it run all night. My temps are 49-51C so the new fan set up is doing work as well. Success so far. Thanks for the help!
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Currently have my 965be at 213 x 20 or 4.275ghz with 1.488vcore and cpu load line @ auto on a saber tooth which pushes volts to roughly 1.51v under load. Temp under prime small ffts maxes at 47c using an antec kuhler 620 with mediocre push/pull fans. All other temps are fine. Currently running prime now while i am at work, and will see what happens when i get home but it was running for about an hour before i left and seems like it will be fine. Will i be ok running this chip at this speed 24/7? idle for about 20 hours a day and will see maybe 2 hours of gaming daily. I might be able to drop volts a little, but maybe only to about 1.48v @ 4.3ghz which is what im shooting for.

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I wasn't sure where to put this, so I'm asking in this thread first. Basically, my GPU got a boost from clocking my CPU, how can that be?

So, I accidentally pressed the "OC TUNER" option on my M5A99FX pro r2.0., which gave me some ridiculous results on my 965BE c3. Since I was reverting back to default anyway, I thought I'd do some more thorough clocking as I had yet to pass 4GHz stable. On my merry way, at just over 3.8ghz and some prime95, I ran 3dMark '11 (basic version, so I ran the perfomance option I think). Lo and behold, my HD 7950 (1000/1290) jumped from a stable score through countless of runs at the 8800s, up to around 9150 or so. Which I found weird, as I hadn't fiddled with it at all. This equals to a 3-4 fps increase in one of the graphics tests, for instance.

I continue onwards, and again, after some prime95 my CPU seemed somewhat stable at 3927 MHz, so I run 3dMark again. In addition to a 150 point increase on the CPU part, my GPU score upped by a little as well! Still puzzled, I was determined to hit 4 GHz. Which I did after some dabbling. However, my overall 3dMark score decreased, and my little GPU boost as well. The CPU with around 70 points or so, which ac****ed for just over 1 fps less than in my sweet 3927 MHz run.

I am very puzzled with these results, and I've tried to recreate the exact conditions now. I was stupid enough to not save the clock profile in the BIOS, and I have since reached the exact same clock speed, but alas, I can't seem to get the same results again. What may have caused this?
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I wasn't sure where to put this, so I'm asking in this thread first. Basically, my GPU got a boost from clocking my CPU, how can that be?
So, I accidentally pressed the "OC TUNER" option on my M5A99FX pro r2.0., which gave me some ridiculous results on my 965BE c3. Since I was reverting back to default anyway, I thought I'd do some more thorough clocking as I had yet to pass 4GHz stable. On my merry way, at just over 3.8ghz and some prime95, I ran 3dMark '11 (basic version, so I ran the perfomance option I think). Lo and behold, my HD 7950 (1000/1290) jumped from a stable score through countless of runs at the 8800s, up to around 9150 or so. Which I found weird, as I hadn't fiddled with it at all. This equals to a 3-4 fps increase in one of the graphics tests, for instance.
I continue onwards, and again, after some prime95 my CPU seemed somewhat stable at 3927 MHz, so I run 3dMark again. In addition to a 150 point increase on the CPU part, my GPU score upped by a little as well! Still puzzled, I was determined to hit 4 GHz. Which I did after some dabbling. However, my overall 3dMark score decreased, and my little GPU boost as well. The CPU with around 70 points or so, which ac****ed for just over 1 fps less than in my sweet 3927 MHz run.
I am very puzzled with these results, and I've tried to recreate the exact conditions now. I was stupid enough to not save the clock profile in the BIOS, and I have since reached the exact same clock speed, but alas, I can't seem to get the same results again. What may have caused this?

This is because you have a bottleneck. Your GPU is faster than your CPU. Thus, speeding up your CPU will allow more elbow room for your GPU to come out and play. You have two ways to combat that. You either, speed up your CPU, to as fast as it goes. Or, you increase your video settings, to be more demanding on your GPU. (Your frame rates are limited anyway, why not enjoy some anti-aliasing and other eye candy)
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