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I *believe* the info above stating that furmark stresses both cards is not correct (at least not in default mode, I've never gone searching for an option to change it though). I think it has the same issue (and probalby the same workarounds) as ATI tool does. What I mean is I'm pretty dang sure that only one card is tested in FM.
Nope, you are incorrect. Furmark does stress both cards. I have run the stability test while monitoring temps multiple times, and both temps rise considerably (70*+).

I click stability test, MSAA to 16x, uncheck full screen, set my resolution to 1920x1080 or 1680x1050, and run the test.
     
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Nope, you are incorrect. Furmark does stress both cards. I have run the stability test while monitoring temps multiple times, and both temps rise considerably (70*+).

I click stability test, MSAA to 16x, uncheck full screen, set my resolution to 1920x1080 or 1680x1050, and run the test.
Well, unless there is a newer version than 1.3 which has changed how it operates, I'm afraid it is you that is incorrect my friend.

And if you are actually UNchecking Full Screen, I think it's REALLY unlikely you are using both cards. But I won't say I'm positive on that ...

What I will say, though, is that maybe you should try it again, using RT graphs open in the background.

Unless we have different versions of furmark, you should see that the second card will clock up to 3d at first, but then it will clock back to 2d clocks very shortly after the test begins running, and you'll also see that one gpu gets significantly warmer than the other (about 10C difference in my case, although they do both go up ... kinda to be expected with a 295).

I just now did it, both in full screen and windowed, and the result in the RT graphs was the same in both cases. One card drops down to 2d clocks, for sure, after about 30 seconds into the test ... happens both full screen or windowed ...

Maybe my Furmark is just older though, I forget when I grabbed it, so if that's changed, I apologize
    
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Well, unless there is a newer version than 1.3 which has changed how it operates, I'm afraid it is you that is incorrect my friend.

And if you are actually UNchecking Full Screen, I think it's REALLY unlikely you are using both cards. But I won't say I'm positive on that ...

What I will say, though, is that maybe you should try it again, using RT graphs open in the background.

Unless we have different versions of furmark, you should see that the second card will clock up to 3d at first, but then it will clock back to 2d clocks very shortly after the test begins running, and you'll also see that one gpu gets significantly warmer than the other (about 10C difference in my case, although they do both go up ... kinda to be expected with a 295).

I just now did it, both in full screen and windowed, and the result in the RT graphs was the same in both cases. One card was on 2d clocks, for sure, either full screen or windowed...

Maybe my Furmark is just older though, I forget when I grabbed it, so if that's changed, I apologize
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

Current version is 1.6.5, right there on the front page, which is the version I'm using.

I've sat here and watched my temps AND clock speeds rise on both cards while running Furmark. It's plain as night and day, don't know how I could be wrong about that...
     
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http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

Current version is 1.6.5, right there on the front page, which is the version I'm using.

I've sat here and watched my temps AND clock speeds rise on both cards while running Furmark. It's plain as night and day, don't know how I could be wrong about that...
Well then obviously newer versions changed and enabled SLi, or one of you're wrong.

And as bret said vantage is by FAR more useful in gauging SLi performance than 3dmark06, or just about any other bench.
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Well then obviously newer versions changed and enabled SLi, or one of you're wrong.

And as bret said vantage is by FAR more useful in gauging SLi performance than 3dmark06, or just about any other bench.
OMG, obviously newer versions have changed that option then. This is the only version of Furmark I've used, so I didn't know that it didn't USED to support SLI without a forced profile, but NOW it does apparently. I'm looking straight at it, plain as day. Try downloading the new version and see for yourself.

EDIT: Look here! Proof!

Apparently SLI and Crossfire were enabled in version 1.6.0!
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c00lkatz, any thoughts on my OC SLi question?
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c00lkatz, any thoughts on my OC SLi question?
When SLI is enabled, clock speeds will be set to the lowest clocked card for BOTH cards. They do not run at independent clock speeds with SLI enabled. So if you SLI a GTX280 stock clock and a GTX280 superclock or SSC, both cards will run at the stock clocked GTX280's specs. Of course, when you overclock using Rivatuner or Precision, they will both overclock to the same speeds, assuming both cards can handle the same overclock.

Unlinking your core and shader can be done with EVGA Precision for sure, not sure about RivaTuner, though I'm pretty sure it can be done with it, too. It's been a long time since I used RivaTuner.
     
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OK, just to throw something in the mix...

As you know, I've been using nVidia System tools to OC my GPU's independently. I had one GPU OC'd a fair bit higher than the other, and when playing a Direct3D game, it would crash quite soon. I then reduced the OC settings on the higher OC'd GPU and everything is fine. This would mean to me, one of two scenarios:

1) OC settings are not linked in SLi mode

or

2) In SLi mode, it takes the settings from the high clocked GPU.
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OK, just to throw something in the mix...

As you know, I've been using nVidia System tools to OC my GPU's independently. I had one GPU OC'd a fair bit higher than the other, and when playing a Direct3D game, it would crash quite soon. I then reduced the OC settings on the higher OC'd GPU and everything is fine. This would mean to me, one of two scenarios:

1) OC settings are not linked in SLi mode

or

2) In SLi mode, it takes the settings from the high clocked GPU.
3) Stop using Nvidia system tools.

Yes they are linked, and no it takes the clocks from the lowest clocked GPU. Quit using those Nvidia tools/ntune crap already. Download and use Rivatuner and Precision. Those are the only two overclocking apps you should be using. Delete Nvidia system tools/ntune NOW.
     
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LOL. Yes sir!

But I still think it's an interesting point...
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