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for the love of god idle temps don't mean **** unless you post your ambient!!!! Give us a reference. If you're ambient is mid 20's than low 30's idle is fine. Now if your ambient is like 20degrees or less and your idleing at around 34 than yes you prob need to reseat it, but honestly post your ambients to give us an idea and a reference when talking about temps. Otherwise its just a bunch of numbers nothing more.
Ambient 39*C, CPU 43*C... You are telling me this is normal? :O

I'm about to purchase that TIM (probobly the TIM that comes stock on the H50) + 2x UK3000s! I will also use a fan shroud, and use electrical tape to make sure nothing gets out of the push/pull setup.. sound good?



BIOS Settings:
Load Line calibration
extreme ov -

what do you guys have down for these?


My cpu voltage is shown in the picture, and everything else is on auto... Even my timings are on auto on my memory, except I upped the voltage..aren't I suppose to leave it lower than stock voltage..since it was posted for 7-8-7-24 @ 1600MHz 1.6v... and I have it around 1.7v and on auto (don't know why).. anyways.. I'm really lost...and I'm starting to think temps are a problem!
Edited by xquisit - 4/27/10 at 5:05pm
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im too lazy to find the link, but yes when you are doing YOUR temps you need to compare it to your ambient. Ambient temps are the temps of the enviroment your computer is in (i.e. temp inside of case and temp of the room the case is in). This will more or less tell you if your temps are good or not.

Your siting in a 39 c room? *** you in a sauna man? But yes if your in a 39 degree room and your comp is idling 4 degrees above that I would say it good , very good.

To give you a reference my comp's case hovers around 20 c, and my comp idles around 30 c. That is a 10 degree difference in idle alone with my current little oc. In ibt runs or prime it goes all the way up to 54 c. This is on stock cooler and I have reapplied as5 and basically same temps.

I think the article is a sticky here on water essentials or somewhere where the op talks about why your ambient temps are important when comparing temps.

edit
here you go http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...aningless.html
its a sticky in the air cooling forums
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post #953 of 1767
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im too lazy to find the link, but yes when you are doing YOUR temps you need to compare it to your ambient. Ambient temps are the temps of the enviroment your computer is in (i.e. temp inside of case and temp of the room the case is in). This will more or less tell you if your temps are good or not.

Your siting in a 39 c room? *** you in a sauna man? But yes if your in a 39 degree room and your comp is idling 4 degrees above that I would say it good , very good.

To give you a reference my comp's case hovers around 20 c, and my comp idles around 30 c. That is a 10 degree difference in idle alone with my current little oc. In ibt runs or prime it goes all the way up to 54 c. This is on stock cooler and I have reapplied as5 and basically same temps.

I think the article is a sticky here on water essentials or somewhere where the op talks about why your ambient temps are important when comparing temps.

edit
here you go http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...aningless.html
its a sticky in the air cooling forums
Ty+Rep

What about some help overclocking?

I don't know when to adjust the nb, cpu/nb, sb, cpu vdda voltages.. I feel like I'm leaving everything on auto, because I am a noob... now I know if I find out my CPU Frequency I want to work with, then I would have to find a proper NB Frequency and propery memory timings.. How do I go about this?

Do I find the highest NB my computer can handle, and run Prime95 small FFT to see if it's stable? (What rituals do I go through.. do I adjust just the nb voltage after I go after a certain frequency like 2800?)

Do I leave my cpu&nb frequency stock, while working with my memory overlocks/tweaks? Or is it pointless, because memory is the first thing I should be worried about when I have my overclocked CPU/NB frequencies enabled?

Any help would be nice...
Furthermore, I'm working with 1204 BIOS ..would it hurt to upgrade to the newest one? And hope for better results?
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post #954 of 1767
just tried my current setup in my sig, but i bumped the nb to 24XXMHz and I failed prime95 (not sure how long it lasted, I was gone for 30 minutes).. any ideas?

I'm sure if I started putting numbers instead of auto, it would help out a lot
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you might wanna try to lower your mem clock, its around 2k right now right? The nb oc will affect your mem oc, so play with your memory as well. Maybe go down to 1600 and loosen timings and see if you are stable. If yes than oc the memory. I read that with amd cpu's you might wanna loosen your memory a lot, and lower the speed, get a high stable cpu oc and nb oc than tighten timings and go with higher speed on memory.
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post #956 of 1767
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you might wanna try to lower your mem clock, its around 2k right now right? The nb oc will affect your mem oc, so play with your memory as well. Maybe go down to 1600 and loosen timings and see if you are stable. If yes than oc the memory. I read that with amd cpu's you might wanna loosen your memory a lot, and lower the speed, get a high stable cpu oc and nb oc than tighten timings and go with higher speed on memory.
Man, that was hard to read.

You'll see a real nice benefit by running at <1600MHz, with much tighter timings and a high IMC clock (2600-3000). You're failing Prime because you're likely not feeding enough CPU-NB volts, or your CPU overclock was not 100% stable and this just pushed it over the edge. Probably the latter, IMC overclocks usually error our in Prime blend around 3 hours or so, during the 512k inversion test -- it's particularly stressful on the Phenom IMC.

Run Prime for a good amount of time (12+ hours) at 2000MHz IMC, and see where you end up. If that's stable, try 2400MHz and give it a little voltage, up to 1.55 is safe. It initially took me about 1.35V CPU-NB to get 2600 stable. Good luck, report back.
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I would say that for the majority of us, thuban is not going to improve much, rather get a SSD and see a much greater performance increase. Plus, its the first gen 6 core AMD, think of the Phenom1 x4's, they were a bit horrible, whereas the PhII's are beautiful. I would say, wait for a revision of thuban in a few months, those chips will be rockin. But for everyone here without a SSD and looking at thuban for your next upgrade, Get a SSD, it will give u the best performance increase.
   
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For the most part, it's only because I won't USE 6 cores. I barely use 4 as it is. lol
The money is a big hindrance too.
Having Thuban isn't just for six cores. They have been OC to 4.5 stable and run much cooler than our 965s. At guru3d they had one running at 4ghz with a load temp of 45*C on a $35 air cooler!
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post #959 of 1767
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Having Thuban isn't just for six cores. They have been OC to 4.5 stable and run much cooler than our 965s. At guru3d they had one running at 4ghz with a load temp of 45*C on a $35 air cooler!
A number isn't worth 200-300 bucks for most people, i would guess. Myself included.
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I agree with Sub50hz. I would most likely upgrade when an new revision is out, next year at the earliest. I just bought this 965 in February.
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