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The track in question is an MP3 yes. I will try to get a hold of a FLAC copy and compare them
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post #11982 of 38372
maybe the DT880's are particularly revealing. however i can't hear the difference between WAV and 256AAC on my DT770's, XPT100 (FA-003/HM5 clone), or HD280's <-- my most revealing headphone.
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post #11983 of 38372
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Originally Posted by Porter_ View Post

maybe the DT880's are particularly revealing. however i can't hear the difference between WAV and 256AAC on my DT770's, XPT100 (FA-003/HM5 clone), or HD280's <-- my most revealing headphone.

The average person can't hear the difference... a vast majority of people who think they can could not pick out the MP3 track in a blind test. The best I've seen is someone get a consistent 7/10... which means you could hear it, but definitely not the difference people make it out to be since best case you're thinking an MP3 is FLAC 30% of the time.

When you do compare mp3 to flac to see if that helps, make sure to try to do it blind; have someone else name the tracks 1 and 2 (or better yet have 3 copies of each), and not tell you which is which. Remove anything in your media player that tells you the file size or type, and try comparing.

That being said there's really no reason to not use FLAC these days... even with a large library, having 100gb of music isn't a huge deal with modern hard drive sizes.
Edited by Crazy9000 - 11/2/12 at 6:16am
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post #11984 of 38372
DT880 generally has low distortion, good characteristics overall, and it has something of a treble peak. I think mp3 compression artifacts tend to show up more in the treble, or at least that's what I remember the last time I tried some really crude spectral analysis of the difference between mp3 and the original. Those factors should combine to make artifacts easier to hear.

In practice, it still may not be audible for most music, with a reasonable encoder and high bitrate, at a given listening volume. It also depends on how hard you're listening, if you know what to listen for (then again, who wants to hear the compression artifacts? if you don't hear them, be glad), and so on.

Very likely, any issues could be on the recording in the first place and not a result of lossy encoding. Plenty of mastering jobs are not that great or not really targeted for higher-fidelity playback systems.
post #11985 of 38372
Most of my 128kbps mp3's sound terrible with my DT 880's. 192kbps MP3 is tolerable.
256kbps mp3 sounds good. 320kbps mp3 sounds very good.
not much experience with FLAC.

Anyone know a good site with (legal) mp3 vs flac comparison?

My favorite music to listen to with DT 880's is electronic music because the recordings often seem to be very high quality.
     
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post #11986 of 38372
I tried the FLAC version of the track I was experiencing distortion with, and it's still there. I find it happens quite a bit on youtube videos with people talking also, so it's on the higher end of the sound scale.

The track in question BTW is Daft Punk - The Grid from the Tron Legacy OST. Starts after about 47 seconds in.

These have only had about 5 hours of burn in time though, so I hope it's just that.

Edit: had another thought. Didn't occur to me at first becuase it doesn't happen with the PC350's;

I'm currently using onboard audio (not by choice) while my STX is in for repair/replacement. Could it be that the onboard cannot drive these headphones, causing the distortion?
Edited by Outcasst - 11/2/12 at 11:34am
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Eww on-board but there's rather harsh highs imo in the track (listen to it quite a bit). Perhaps a combination of both?
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post #11988 of 38372
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I'm currently using onboard audio (not by choice) while my STX is in for repair/replacement. Could it be that the onboard cannot drive these headphones, causing the distortion?

100% guarantee it's the onboard. Nicer headphones are more revealing and really show the flaws with onboard audio.
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post #11989 of 38372
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100% guarantee it's the onboard. Nicer headphones are more revealing and really show the flaws with onboard audio.

Yeah thought as much. They sound great on onboard, so I can't wait to get the STX back. May be a while though knowing ASUS's RMA process...

Other than that I'm just waiting for my ModMic to arrive. Seems like they are having some production issues so it could be a few weeks before I get it. For now I'm having to use my PC350's around my neck whilst wearing the 880's if I wanna use VOIP tongue.gif
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Yeah thought as much. They sound great on onboard, so I can't wait to get the STX back. May be a while though knowing ASUS's RMA process...

When me and my brother both got Denon D2000's, we setup my computer vs his to try a blind test vs onboard and a x-fi... then the track distorted horribly on the onboard and was difficult to listen to lachen.gif. We were thinking we would have to A/B back and forth a few times to start noticing the difference... I think the low quality of onboard audio is really understated.
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