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maybe the DT880's are particularly revealing. however i can't hear the difference between WAV and 256AAC on my DT770's, XPT100 (FA-003/HM5 clone), or HD280's <-- my most revealing headphone.

The average person can't hear the difference... a vast majority of people who think they can could not pick out the MP3 track in a blind test. The best I've seen is someone get a consistent 7/10... which means you could hear it, but definitely not the difference people make it out to be since best case you're thinking an MP3 is FLAC 30% of the time.

When you do compare mp3 to flac to see if that helps, make sure to try to do it blind; have someone else name the tracks 1 and 2 (or better yet have 3 copies of each), and not tell you which is which. Remove anything in your media player that tells you the file size or type, and try comparing.

That being said there's really no reason to not use FLAC these days... even with a large library, having 100gb of music isn't a huge deal with modern hard drive sizes.
The issue isn't MP3 vs FLAC. It's an issue the DT880s have with MP3s and distortion/compression. The DT880s need high bitrate running through them or else they fail it seems. I wouldn't even say it has to do with the headphone being revealing it's simply an interesting issue.
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DT880 generally has low distortion, good characteristics overall, and it has something of a treble peak. I think mp3 compression artifacts tend to show up more in the treble, or at least that's what I remember the last time I tried some really crude spectral analysis of the difference between mp3 and the original. Those factors should combine to make artifacts easier to hear.

In practice, it still may not be audible for most music, with a reasonable encoder and high bitrate, at a given listening volume. It also depends on how hard you're listening, if you know what to listen for (then again, who wants to hear the compression artifacts? if you don't hear them, be glad), and so on.

Very likely, any issues could be on the recording in the first place and not a result of lossy encoding. Plenty of mastering jobs are not that great or not really targeted for higher-fidelity playback systems.
Depending on the compression of the MP3 it can be very easy to hear distortion, but it's not even natural distortion..it sounds very much like sliding nails down a chalk board. It's absolutely painful to listen to.
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I tried the FLAC version of the track I was experiencing distortion with, and it's still there. I find it happens quite a bit on youtube videos with people talking also, so it's on the higher end of the sound scale.

The track in question BTW is Daft Punk - The Grid from the Tron Legacy OST. Starts after about 47 seconds in.

These have only had about 5 hours of burn in time though, so I hope it's just that.

Edit: had another thought. Didn't occur to me at first becuase it doesn't happen with the PC350's;

I'm currently using onboard audio (not by choice) while my STX is in for repair/replacement. Could it be that the onboard cannot drive these headphones, causing the distortion?
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Really? smh.

Yeah, that's most likely your problem in combination with Mp3. You need an amp for the DT880s especially the higher ohm versions. Nothing is wrong with that track on the DT880s.
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Eww on-board but there's rather harsh highs imo in the track (listen to it quite a bit). Perhaps a combination of both?


They're not that harsh and definitely not for the DT880s. Nothing to do with the combination of the two.
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Onboard audio is great IMHO.redface.gif
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Onboard audio is great IMHO.redface.gif

I agree, I think onboard audio is great. It's better than smashing rocks into my ears and grinding away until I bleed inwards and lose all hearing completely.
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I agree, I think onboard audio is great. It's better than smashing rocks into my ears and grinding away until I bleed inwards and lose all hearing completely.

I honestly believe the differences between today's onboard implementations and outboard circuits range from negligible to marginal.
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I honestly believe the differences between today's onboard implementations and outboard circuits range from negligible to marginal.

That's what I thought too, but it simply couldn't be further from the truth. The difference is still painfully obvious, just hearing the onboard once with the headphones is enough to tell it's the onboard, you don't even have to compare.
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That's what I thought too, but it simply couldn't be further from the truth. The difference is still painfully obvious, just hearing the onboard once with the headphones is enough to tell it's the onboard, you don't even have to compare.

It does depend on the implementation. I suppose I should have clarified that the processing components should be roughly equivalent.

I'm a huge proponent of quality onboard and cost-effective solutions.
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post #11998 of 26978
Back in 2011, I used my new DT 880's for 2 days with on-board sound.
This is what I wrote.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1047018/which-high-quality-gaming-headphones-sound-card/10#post_14204548

"In the 2 days that I tested my DT 880's with VIA sound, I heard an audio glitch every 30min-1hour or so. Nothing major. just a very brief sound similiar to scratching fingernails on cardboard. That's gone now"

With Creative Titanium HD installed,
"Music sounds more refinded: no harshness at all, well balanced lows/mids/highs, very clear/pure sound, and no glitches."
     
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Hi Guys,

I've owned HD555's for the past few years and a Xonar DX sound card. In the past year or so my interest in EDM (electro house and such) has drastically grown. In fact it's 90% of what I listen to these days. I'm beginning to feel like the HD555's are kind of lacking for this experience due to them being open ear and not very bass-y. Now I'm not looking for full on bass drivers but does anyone have recommendations for headphones for electro dance music fans?
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