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I seem to be the ONLY person that didn't know about boxing day until this year. I feel so...deprived.

If you're looking to buy multiple headphones, I would get the Q701s over the DT880s probably... I don't know. It's difficult to say. Even if just using the Q701s for gaming, I'd probably get them over DT880s..especially if you're going 250ohm version.
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I seem to be the ONLY person that didn't know about boxing day until this year. I feel so...deprived.

If you're looking to buy multiple headphones, I would get the Q701s over the DT880s probably... I don't know. It's difficult to say. Even if just using the Q701s for gaming, I'd probably get them over DT880s..especially if you're going 250ohm version.

I'm leaning towards teh Q701s too, but oddly enough, even with less impedence, they are harder to drive the then 880s by my understanding. You usually need an amp twice the price to power the Q701s properly.
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More than likely due to the driver's required impedence over the frequency range (i.e. it may take as much as 500 ohmz to allow the lower end to be extended while only 60 for a range between 500-1250 hz). The unique wave signiture probably has an effect on not only accounting for these impedence differences but also colouring the reproduction of the drivers themselves (with the various voltage fluxuations).
Just an educated guess.

Or that these other amps with so called better driving abilities simply choose to accentuate certain frequencies as that is the sound they want their amp to make rather than them being necessarily being able to drive them 'better'.
    
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K701s were hard to drive. The Q701s are much easier.
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post #12195 of 38145
Are there any headphones that looks good and sounds good? If so, can you recomennd any?
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Looks "good" is subjective my friend
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So is sounds good wink.gif
    
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Originally Posted by biatchi View Post

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Originally Posted by Domino View Post

More than likely due to the driver's required impedence over the frequency range (i.e. it may take as much as 500 ohmz to allow the lower end to be extended while only 60 for a range between 500-1250 hz). The unique wave signiture probably has an effect on not only accounting for these impedence differences but also colouring the reproduction of the drivers themselves (with the various voltage fluxuations).
Just an educated guess.

Or that these other amps with so called better driving abilities simply choose to accentuate certain frequencies as that is the sound they want their amp to make rather than them being necessarily being able to drive them 'better'.

I'd agree with you if electricity behaved that simply in circuitry such as this.
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Originally Posted by Simca View Post

K701s were hard to drive. The Q701s are much easier.

I thought they were the exact same driver?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simca View Post

K701s were hard to drive. The Q701s are much easier.

I thought they were the exact same driver?

A change in the mechanical suspension, structure, and enclosure design / pads could have an impact on how the load behaves, how easy it is to drive, even for the same driver (is it the same?). e.g. note how impedance vs. frequency curves change—well, non-trivially but not much—for some headphones when clamped on the head vs. in free air.

That said, this is one of many situations where I would be skeptical of such a claim, a big difference. For example, I needn't look beyond this page...

I've got no idea what's being said here (no offense):
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Originally Posted by Domino View Post

More than likely due to the driver's required impedence over the frequency range (i.e. it may take as much as 500 ohmz to allow the lower end to be extended while only 60 for a range between 500-1250 hz). The unique wave signiture probably has an effect on not only accounting for these impedence differences but also colouring the reproduction of the drivers themselves (with the various voltage fluxuations).
Just an educated guess.

Or that these other amps with so called better driving abilities simply choose to accentuate certain frequencies as that is the sound they want their amp to make rather than them being necessarily being able to drive them 'better'.
I'd agree with you if electricity behaved that simply in circuitry such as this.

and btw, this is totally unrelated, but...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simca View Post

I seem to be the ONLY person that didn't know about boxing day until this year. I feel so...deprived.

If you're looking to buy multiple headphones, I would get the Q701s over the DT880s probably... I don't know. It's difficult to say. Even if just using the Q701s for gaming, I'd probably get them over DT880s..especially if you're going 250ohm version.

I'm leaning towards teh Q701s too, but oddly enough, even with less impedence, they are harder to drive the then 880s by my understanding. You usually need an amp twice the price to power the Q701s properly.
All else equal, lower impedance = harder to drive. In the very least (ignoring amp impedance interactions, damping, other things), P = I^2 * Z. To get an equal power (P) with a lower impedance (Z), then more current (I) is required.
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