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Originally Posted by OkanG View Post

Well, that's sad. Realtek seem to have removed their EQ since Windows Vista. Although there is a way to get it back, I can't find any EQ for my Fiio E7, which I'm currently using.

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Originally Posted by dmanstasiu View Post

It doesn't come with it's own EQ like the E07K?

Hmm I can't remember the E7 having its own EQ - only BASS settings, that's it.

As for software - I know realtek had its own - seems strange why they removed it...
post #12762 of 38133
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post


Hmm I can't remember the E7 having its own EQ - only BASS settings, that's it.

As for software - I know realtek had its own - seems strange why they removed it...

Yea. But would I be able to use it anyways, when I'm using my Fiio E7? Am I not bypassing the Realtek software by using an external amp/DAC?
 
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post #12763 of 38133
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Yea. But would I be able to use it anyways, when I'm using my Fiio E7? Am I not bypassing the Realtek software by using an external amp/DAC?

If connect via DAC - then yup, you would be by-passing the software relating to the realtek...but NOT the individual software settings -> like WMP or foobar settings...
Let me check what I'm saying with my EHP connect via DAC - and I can confirm.

EDIT:
Oh I love my D2K's and EHP-O2D!!!

Right:
EHP connect as a DAC to my PC:

Asus control panel eq - DOES NOTHING, as it is assigned to the soundcard, and the not ehp or anything else
Windows media player EQ settings - DOES changes tot he sound, as it is assigned to the software, and not the hardware.

So long story short:
If you want to EQ your DT's whilst listening to your E7 via DAC mode, then you'll have to change the EQ settings via the software you use to listen to your music - ie WMP for me.
I just go on ROCK setting and enable it (and with my speakers i still have it on + my EQ settings linked above)

Hope this helps thumb.gif
Edited by Totally Dubbed - 1/23/13 at 12:49pm
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I'd like to be added to the club biggrin.gif I've got the ATH-M50 and the DT 770 Pro 80.
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Haha yep that's what the DAC does, it converts the USB signal for your amp..

I think I'm going to go ahead with the GR07 bass edition
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Don't forget to use ASIO kids thumb.gif
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post #12767 of 38133
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Originally Posted by dmanstasiu View Post

Haha yep that's what the DAC does, it converts the USB signal for your amp..

I think I'm going to go ahead with the GR07 bass edition

enjoy
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Don't forget to use ASIO kids thumb.gif

ASIO is completely pointless unless you have some sort of recording studio smile.gif
post #12768 of 38133
if you want system-wide EQ, I think it's possible with some effort tinkering around with a VST plugin that does EQ (the easy part), VSTHost, and VAC (Virtual Audio Cable). I guess you can consider it something of a hackish workaround solution, but apparently it works.

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Comparing a new headphone or IEM with an old, broken-in one is not really a valid methodology for investigating burn-in effects. Differences between different samples is often higher. Read: often much higher.
s.

Would it make you feel happy, for me to say
My pfe232's were after 50hrs, identically sounding. And I can guarantee you, that feeling wasn't the same, when I opened the second set up.
We are talking $600 earphones by the way.

Up to people to argue about burn-in. By the "methodology", as I know you are a man that relies on numbers - you could go to the inner fidelity graphs, and they will demonstrate that burn-in doesn't change the sound of headphones.
I however don't go based on facts and figures. I go based on personal experience, and to fully judge a audio product, I tend to give them time to burn-in (at least 30hrs) before making any sort of judgement on how they sound.
If my life was built up in facts and figures, my life would be very different - let's just put it that way (I'm not talking audio here)

Like I said, other things can change that will also make an impact on sound quality.

"The driver becoming used to what you will feed it, and it playing music for the first time ever" is probably not the primary effect causing differences in what reaches the eardrum.

I just don't think it helps when people say the wrong things or say the right things but give the wrong reasons. It's about doing a little more critical thinking in interpreting results and jumping to conclusions, so we don't inadvertently mislead other people. It goes for everybody, as far as I'm concerned.
post #12769 of 38133
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if you want system-wide EQ, I think it's possible with some effort tinkering around with a VST plugin that does EQ (the easy part), VSTHost, and VAC (Virtual Audio Cable). I guess you can consider it something of a hackish workaround solution, but apparently it works.
Like I said, other things can change that will also make an impact on sound quality.

"The driver becoming used to what you will feed it, and it playing music for the first time ever" is probably not the primary effect causing differences in what reaches the eardrum.

I just don't think it helps when people say the wrong things or say the right things but give the wrong reasons. It's about doing a little more critical thinking in interpreting results and jumping to conclusions, so we don't inadvertently mislead other people. It goes for everybody, as far as I'm concerned.

Your opinion is yours, and mine is mine.
I just express my own personal experience that's it. If people wish to believe me, then so be it - if they don't want to, like you, then no one is forcing you lol.

I jump to my own conclusions, and more so trust me own judgement over anyone else on this planet.
I just don't like you using words like: "misleading" "wrong" - question can be asked - what says YOU are right, and others are wrong? That sort of thinking pisses me quite a bit off. Almost like being egoistic and self-centred.
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off topic, mostly (Click to show)
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Originally Posted by mikeaj View Post

if you want system-wide EQ, I think it's possible with some effort tinkering around with a VST plugin that does EQ (the easy part), VSTHost, and VAC (Virtual Audio Cable). I guess you can consider it something of a hackish workaround solution, but apparently it works.
Like I said, other things can change that will also make an impact on sound quality.

"The driver becoming used to what you will feed it, and it playing music for the first time ever" is probably not the primary effect causing differences in what reaches the eardrum.

I just don't think it helps when people say the wrong things or say the right things but give the wrong reasons. It's about doing a little more critical thinking in interpreting results and jumping to conclusions, so we don't inadvertently mislead other people. It goes for everybody, as far as I'm concerned.

Your opinion is yours, and mine is mine.
I just express my own personal experience that's it. If people wish to believe me, then so be it - if they don't want to, like you, then no one is forcing you lol.

I jump to my own conclusions, and more so trust me own judgement over anyone else on this planet.
I just don't like you using words like: "misleading" "wrong" - question can be asked - what says YOU are right, and others are wrong? That sort of thinking pisses me quite a bit off. Almost like being egoistic and self-centred.

Nobody's questioning your experiences, perceptions, etc. you want to share. Please continue.

Where we get into trouble is when we toss out explanations for what's happening. If explanations don't hold water, then they should be discussed and modified. It's never personal attacks, I hope, just working with ideas and information. I toss out so many explanations that many are certain to be wrong too, so anybody who knows better should be fixing those as well. I try to hold higher standards for myself than I do for other people. Talking about "wrong", "misleading" is mostly about general situations. Don't mean to single anyone out.

I don't think you can just call them opinions. Certain explanations for how systems (e.g. digital logic, motors, tornadoes, audio reproduction) work can pretty much be labeled "wrong". If I were to say that AMD GPUs run faster with AMD CPUs because of some kind of synergy, that statement would hopefully be ridiculed, for example. If I were to say that Pentium 4 has low IPC because of the long pipeline, I would hopefully be corrected that there are plenty of other factors as well. Music appreciation is very subjective, as is perception of sound, but audio reproduction gear / psychoacoustics / circuits / etc. fall into rigorously-studied fields of science and engineering.

Differences in IEM sound due to insertion depth, tips, and so on, are known. There is a lot of data on headphone or IEM samples of the same model sounding different (not always by any significant amount for every pair of samples, but it isn't exactly rare). This is both by people's listening impressions and by the measurements.

Is wanting a little more accountability offensive? This isn't about you or me, but anybody reading OCN and expecting to get good information.
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