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Originally Posted by mikeaj View Post

Be careful when looking at CMoys because there are many variants. Differences in parts used and topology mean that some have significantly different performance characteristics than others. What headphones are you using and how loudly do you listen? To get a very good idea of how much louder something else might be, you can take a couple of easy measurements with a multimeter and a couple of 3.5mm cables and a splitter. Depending on how loud you listen and the headphones, some CMoys may be unsuitable for your application, even if they sound fine to other people on their setups.

3.5mm -> RCA makes no practical difference in the vast majority of situations, so if you want a Magni, go ahead.

You'd be using the line output from the motherboard onboard audio to an amp unless you got a DAC/amp combo, right? What other device did you want to use this with; why a portable DAC / amp / whatever? Why the portability?

A lot of people don't like FiiO, for whatever reason. A lot of people do, for whatever reason. Their products generally have pretty good tested audio specs for the money when benchmarked properly, at least compared to a lot of the audiophile market, for running headphones. Whether or not that's important to you may be personal preference.

I wanted to get something where I can use with my headphones and maybe my cellphone but I can wait for that, right now I'm just looking for a amp to use with my DT 770 80's I'm totally new to this audio thing, lets just say I don't know anything biggrin.gif What would be best to get?

Didn't want a DG as I heard my motherboard gives off a frequencie sound and I just want to play it safe.
Edited by ANDMYGUN - 2/28/13 at 9:50pm
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I wanted to get something where I can use with my headphones and maybe my cellphone but I can wait for that, right now I'm just looking for a amp to use with my DT 770 80's I'm totally new to this audio thing, lets just say I don't know anything biggrin.gif What would be best to get?

Didn't want a DG as I heard my motherboard gives off a frequencie sound and I just want to play it safe.

Okay, everybody already covered the amp situation then. Most phones can't send audio data to external DACs, so something like FiiO E7 would be just used as a portable amp for the phone and then a DAC + amp combo with the computer. It might be worthwhile just to get two different devices. Or just a portable amp, hoping that the mobo integrated audio won't act up. Personally I wouldn't get just an amp, as you say the mobo's giving off weird sounds.

Do you have a multimeter and those couple cables handy? What would be required for some quick and simple detective work would be to measure the output voltage when no headphones are connected (playing a constant tone) and then doing the same with the headphones connected. Hence the need for a splitter to connect the headphones and also have some spots to probe. If not, oh well. Flying blind it is. That's how most people make amp purchases, anyway, if they can't demo.

As always with audio, different people (but maybe not certain subgroups of different people) have different ideas about what's best, sound quality, etc. I think a wild goose chase is the first rite of passage. Either that, or learn to read between the lines early on.
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I wanted to get something where I can use with my headphones and maybe my cellphone but I can wait for that, right now I'm just looking for a amp to use with my DT 770 80's I'm totally new to this audio thing, lets just say I don't know anything biggrin.gif What would be best to get?

Didn't want a DG as I heard my motherboard gives off a frequencie sound and I just want to play it safe.

Which phone do you have? Reason why I'm asking is because it's possible to bypass the amp on some phones, but not all.
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I wanted to get something where I can use with my headphones and maybe my cellphone but I can wait for that, right now I'm just looking for a amp to use with my DT 770 80's I'm totally new to this audio thing, lets just say I don't know anything biggrin.gif What would be best to get?

Didn't want a DG as I heard my motherboard gives off a frequencie sound and I just want to play it safe.

I am not entirely sure I want to open this can of worms, but would you be interested in getting a DIY kit?

Oh, and the motherboard does give off sound, but as long as you aren't using on board, you should be pretty good. You will still hear sound with a sound card, but not enough to screw with your music. A used DGX and a schiit magni will serve you well. Later on, you can get the modi and eliminate the noise issue.
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Does anyone use Ultrasones for gaming? I just bought a pair of Ultrasone Pro 900s from the Amazon Lightning Deal ($199) and am already experiencing a bit of remorse. For reference, I already have the JH13 Pro and Grado HF-2 but find them unusable for gaming. The JH13 Pro's cord is too short to comfortably play and I'm not willing to change to a different cord since I use them portably and would like to avoid stress on the joints. The HF-2 are just too uncomfortable.

My speakers (Stradas) are great, but I want a pair of headphones for more intimate imaging since the soundstage is just too wide for me to make out audio cues with quick specificity.

Just wondering how Ultrasones stack up purely for gaming, lest I cancel the order.

EDIT: Just realized I could use an extension cable with my JH13s. Silly me. This much closer to canceling the order.. though I guess there's something awkward about using customs for gaming.
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200 for Pro 900s is a really good deal....mmm..almost sad I missed it.

I'm very sad I missed this as I was considering a pair recently frown.gif.
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I wanted to get something where I can use with my headphones and maybe my cellphone but I can wait for that, right now I'm just looking for a amp to use with my DT 770 80's I'm totally new to this audio thing, lets just say I don't know anything biggrin.gif What would be best to get?

Didn't want a DG as I heard my motherboard gives off a frequencie sound and I just want to play it safe.

I've listened to the Magni with my DT770/80s and it sounds great. Brightens up the headphone while retaining bass quantity, and even possibly improving the tightness.
 
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Ended up canceling the Ultrasones since I realized given their bulkiness to ship it wouldn't be easy to sell them without some sort of loss. Couldn't justify it. Besides, it's not as hot of a deal as the BNIB $160 HD 650s I scored two years ago.

Then I tried the JH13s with an extension cable and realized that the gain on my Peachtree Nova is high enough that setting the volume control just above the point of channel imbalance makes them slightly too loud for my tastes. redface.gif

Should've saved the 100ohm airline adapter from one of the TripleFi 10s I sold a while back...
Edited by friend'scatdied - 3/1/13 at 6:26am
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I have 2 sets of headphones that i game with on my PC. The HD800's and the Ultrasone Signature DJ's. I love the HD's and they dont need to be spoken about. But the DJ's are good as well in their own way. The bass they produce is beautiful its more rounded and got a bit of thump to them. Also i can also use them with my PS Vita and Note 2 because of the interchangeable cables that are included. I got my DJ's for 900 AUD but I reckon I could have got them for $800 if I asked. They are really good and i highly recommend them for any gamer that wants to get a good headphones and not have to buy a DAC for the same or if not more than the headphones themselves. They are closed ear and don't emit much noise externally and you want hear anything going on around you. I travel a lot and next week i have to fly to Italy and I've actually had a nightmare that i forgot to pack my DJ's and i was stuck on a long flight with the airline provided in ear phones lol. I cant speak highly enough about them. Also I'm considering buying some Grados ps1000's! The idea was inspired by the DJ's whilst gaming and i thought back to when i tried the Grados at addictedtoaudio in Melbourne. They were edgy and had a bit more of a bass swagger to them when comparing to the HD800's. I've also got look into upgrading my Burson 160ds as well its good and was perfect for me when i was just getting into headphones now I'm thinking Violectric v800 & v200 combo.

Thanks to the lads at addictedtoaudio! They gave me good service and a lot of patients as i tested all their headphones out over 6 hours LOL. Boys the HD800's, Signature DJ's & Burson ha-160ds DAC. - Are all awesome!
Edited by hatlesschimp - 3/1/13 at 8:43am
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for those that haven't seen how AKG headphones are made.

    
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Pretty cool!
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Well then, for under $100 what is the best amp I can get for my desktop? I will do some research on this Cmoy amp.

I know Schiit makes magni but I'm told It's just a waste if I use a RCA to 3.5 jack.

Andmygun, take a look at the JDS Labs C5 if you want to blow more than $100.
 
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