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Yeah ... I noticed a very slight difference as well but decided to use the breakout box for tests simply cause it was more ergonomic.

The line out from the card was just ever so slightly better in a technical sense ... but the box works fine for general testing.

Believe it or not ... the difference in sound quality between the Elite Pro's card line-out and the breakout box is just barely noticeable ... something I personally can very easily hear ... but that the average user would never detect.

Hopefully ... both the card and box will both get better once I mod them both in the next month or so.

Thanks for the observation though ... it's totally on point.

it will become very different if you mod your x-fi tho.
the box itself is fine.... it's the cable that connects between the soundcard and the box that needs to be replaced.

the longer you burn in your cans.... the more you'll notice the difference between line-out/breakout box.
it's that kind of sound that you won;t realize when it's there, but you will clearly miss em when it's gone.
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it will become very different if you mod your x-fi tho.
the box itself is fine.... it's the cable that connects between the soundcard and the box that needs to be replaced.

the longer you burn in your cans.... the more you'll notice the difference between line-out/breakout box.
it's that kind of sound that you won;t realize when it's there, but you will clearly miss em when it's gone.
As far as I've read and those I've discussed the issue with online ...

The problem with the X-fi Elite Pro breakout box arises more so from the fact that the breakout box uses (compared to card) an inferior DAC and an inferior OPAMP on the headphone out port.

The DAC, I can't really do anything about ... but the OPAMP on the breakout box will be modded soon.

...

Ultimately though ... I'll only use the breakout for various line-IN applications (recording, etc).

When I have a decent desktop amp or DAC/amp combo ... I'll be running strictly from my cards line out when listening through headhphones.

...

About burn in ...

I've got about four hours now on the HD595's and I can already hear some changes ...

    
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As far as I've read and those I've discussed the issue with online ...

The problem with the X-fi Elite Pro breakout box arises more so from the fact that the breakout box uses (compared to card) an inferior DAC and an inferior OPAMP on the headphone out port.

The DAC, I can't really do anything about ... but the OPAMP on the breakout box will be modded soon.

...

Ultimately though ... I'll only use the breakout for various line-IN applications (recording, etc).

When I have a decent desktop amp or DAC/amp combo ... I'll be running strictly from my cards line out when listening through headhphones.

...

About burn in ...

I've got about four hours now on the HD595's and I can already hear some changes ...

the box has the same DAC as the rest of the x-fi lineup. It is still a good DAC, and the real problem with the cards is the analog and power stage, not the DAC. So the breakout box is essentially a regular x-fi. The Elite Pro has a better DAC and slightly better analog output stage. They all use the same crappy op-amps. Replacing the op-amps in both will still yield a vast improvement over stock.
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As far as I've read and those I've discussed the issue with online ...

The problem with the X-fi Elite Pro breakout box arises more so from the fact that the breakout box uses (compared to card) an inferior DAC and an inferior OPAMP on the headphone out port.

The DAC, I can't really do anything about ... but the OPAMP on the breakout box will be modded soon.

...

Ultimately though ... I'll only use the breakout for various line-IN applications (recording, etc).

When I have a decent desktop amp or DAC/amp combo ... I'll be running strictly from my cards line out when listening through headhphones.

...

About burn in ...

I've got about four hours now on the HD595's and I can already hear some changes ...

You'll slowly notice improvements through the burn in . You could always get a standalone DAC, I've heard Zhaolu's (I have the Zhaolu D3.0) and Beresford's are great budget DAC's, especially modded (Zhaolu's).
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the box has the same DAC as the rest of the x-fi lineup. It is still a good DAC, and the real problem with the cards is the analog and power stage, not the DAC. So the breakout box is essentially a regular x-fi. The Elite Pro has a better DAC and slightly better analog output stage. They all use the same crappy op-amps. Replacing the op-amps in both will still yield a vast improvement over stock.
still... the cable sucks
if only there are custom cables for that.... hmmmm. soloz2?
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still... the cable sucks
if only there are custom cables for that.... hmmmm. soloz2?
on a side note I just finished a new power cable for my Marantz SR7001
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I'm not sure what deleted posts you're referencing, I've not touched anything related to Bose at all that I know of.

I didn't suggest that Bose should be recommend to all in order to cure disease and promote world peace. I did suggest that somebody not be flamed for a purchase they already made. He wasn't exactly asking how good Bose was, he just stated he owned them and wanted to be added to the club.

I try to be pretty low-key and let a lot of stuff slide. I don't want to be perceived as somebody who is power-hungry or any of that crap. But, I do insist that any section I work in be as friendly and conducive to good discussion as it possibly can be. If you'd like me to enforce the rules more strictly and be a jerk, lemme know. It sure wouldn't be as much fun though, for any of us.
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hey guys if you want to bash bose then start a thread where we can discuss bose products. Lets not do it here, especially after someone posts asking to join with a pair of bose headphones. I know I'm just as guilty as others for this, but lets to to clean it up a bit.
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hey guys if you want to bash bose then start a thread where we can discuss bose products. Lets not do it here, especially after someone posts asking to join with a pair of bose headphones. I know I'm just as guilty as others for this, but lets to to clean it up a bit.
hahahaha.... that thread, my friend, will be awfully useless
concentrated stuff always seems better/worse....
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