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I can see both sides of this. My 2 cents is you should listen to music from your source and other sources or at least music that you don't like or often listen to. Why? We all have inherent biases especially towards things we like. Everyone is naturally guilty of this, it is simply a matter of degree. Listening to a song we don't listen to often or listening to songs from different sources could allow you to listen in a more "objective" manner. Hearing songs that you like and listen to often, our minds can start adding in sounds that are not there or fool us into hearing sound a certain way. On the other hand, listening to music from my source allows me to determine how it will sound when I take it home and how much I will continue to enjoy it, provided I can minimize bias beforehand. It's really a double edged sword for both arguments IMHO.

That's a very good point about being objective - but the flip side is very easy:
I have NO IDEA how Jazz X song is SUPPOSED to sound like.
Yet I have a very good idea how "Down on me - Jerimih" is "supposed" to sound like.
By that I mean quite a few things: The bass, the vocals, the decay.
AN extremely good example of this - and funny enough we are talking about Jazz - (or at least I am lol) the MMDT (Monster Miles Davis Tribute) had a weird type of decay to them.
Thus when listening to them, via my normal source, and my normal music quality and taste, I could sense a weird decay that was never present there before.
I then chose to go for something a bit more "smooth" and listen to some actual jazz and classical music. The MMDT's sounded so PERFECT for that music - although that said with a NEGATIVE EQ in the sub and mid bass section made them perfect.
There, for you, is a prime example of listening to earphones/headphones/audio gear with your own music and source, and more so the impacts it has on it.

So here's the thing:
If I were to get an adapter put it on my S3, listen to the HD800's - then formulate an opinion on it based on S3 -> HD800 vs S3 -> D2K's - I would get bashed beyond BELIEF on the internet for formulating an opinion like that.
Simply because people will say "The HD800's aren't made to be played via that rubbish source" - Sure it might not have a balanced output bla bla bla to it but that's HOW I LISTEN to music. Thus if I want to formulate an opinion on a HD800, I should do it on what I know best with what I have at my disposal at home/OTG.

That's the problem with audio talk, audio gear and more so audiophiles. I can't understand why I should listen to a set of headphones to music I wouldn't listen to and/or a source I don't have.
That's why I appreciate it when people say: Plug your source in.


Anyway - that's my thoughts. I used the HD800's as an example for a few reasons: High-end headphones, used with a £300+ amp 95% of the time and has a 1/4" jack.
Edited by Totally Dubbed - 4/12/13 at 8:24pm
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comprehensive response

I definitely agree with you for the most part, because at the end of the day you want to enjoy it. I am not suggesting that you listen to music you have no idea about, but rather music you have heard but don't listen to too often, just to see what it is capable of. Here are some examples:

- If I want to test speed, separation, detail I would listen to "Flight of the Bumblebees" but it is hardly a song I listen to typically for enjoyment.
- If I want to test bass extension I listen to "Limit to Your Love" though I actually do like that song a lot
- If I want to test how lush, smooth, warm I listen to Whitney Houston who I listen to often as well as Mariah Carey who I don't really like

I personally think it can be beneficial to mix it up so you not only know if you enjoy it, but what the headphones are capable of and what its weaknesses or limits are.
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I never said anything about random.

I have about 10 tracks all dubstep, piano, jazz, acoustic.

I am familiar with all these tracks but I listen to none of this music on my own time.
    
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Well, I'm sure all that's better than my strategy.

>> Listen to something I've heard plenty of times in real life.

Everything sounds different and fails. What a surprise!
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I definitely agree with you for the most part, because at the end of the day you want to enjoy it. I am not suggesting that you listen to music you have no idea about, but rather music you have heard but don't listen to too often, just to see what it is capable of. Here are some examples:

- If I want to test speed, separation, detail I would listen to "Flight of the Bumblebees" but it is hardly a song I listen to typically for enjoyment.
- If I want to test bass extension I listen to "Limit to Your Love" though I actually do like that song a lot
- If I want to test how lush, smooth, warm I listen to Whitney Houston who I listen to often as well as Mariah Carey who I don't really like

I personally think it can be beneficial to mix it up so you not only know if you enjoy it, but what the headphones are capable of and what its weaknesses or limits are.
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I never said anything about random.

I have about 10 tracks all dubstep, piano, jazz, acoustic.

I am familiar with all these tracks but I listen to none of this music on my own time.



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great reference material.. no one likes it! teasing
    
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but the price of the xb1ks is pretty much as much as the ones listed. And for that price - sure if you ONLY want sub-bass then get the xb1ks.
If you ONLY want mid-bass then get the xb500's - but for all-rounders the sony's aren't that good, especially at the higher price brackets.
FYI: This is again coming from someone who cherished and LOVED the XB700's for over 2 years.

The XB700's don't sound close to the XB1000's at all. The XB1000's are much better all rounders and much different than the rest of the series in terms of handling mids and highs. I only wish they didn't have that shortage of them so that there would be more good reviews on it. There's even a really nice on about it on head-fi.
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The XB700's don't sound close to the XB1000's at all. The XB1000's are much better all rounders and much different than the rest of the series in terms of handling mids and highs. I only wish they didn't have that shortage of them so that there would be more good reviews on it. There's even a really nice on about it on head-fi.

I'm guessing you own the XB1K's....

The sound signature is identical - the XB1k's are definitely more capable, but £150 extra to justify that - I don't think so.

PS. Most people on head-fi have no idea about the term "bass".
I'm not trying to sound condescending, but a lot of people on there only believed a very few reviewers (ie. one of them being me who reviewed a lot over there) when it came to BASS. I'm not talking about all-round reviews etc, but I'm talking about when I say a headphone has bass, you could believe me when I said they had it. Whereas some (a lot) of other reviewers and writers over there, when they said "this headphone is bassy" what they meant to people like myself was: "this headphone can do some sort of bass" lol.

So, treat what you read on head-fi, regarding bass, with a "pinch of salt" as they like to put it.

I tried contacting Sony in order to get myself a pair of XB1k's - but never got any luck or response. Despite single-handily selling well over 100 units of XB700's JUST via my YouTube review I posted over 2 years ago (I know that figure from people posting comment son my video and people PM'ing me)
Edited by Totally Dubbed - 4/13/13 at 7:09am
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I'm guessing you own the XB1K's....

The sound signature is identical - the XB1k's are definitely more capable, but £150 extra to justify that - I don't think so.

PS. Most people on head-fi have no idea about the term "bass".
I'm not trying to sound condescending, but a lot of people on there only believed a very few reviewers (ie. one of them being me who reviewed a lot over there) when it came to BASS. I'm not talking about all-round reviews etc, but I'm talking about when I say a headphone has bass, you could believe me when I said they had it. Whereas some (a lot) of other reviewers and writers over there, when they said "this headphone is bassy" what they meant to people like myself was: "this headphone can do some sort of bass" lol.

So, treat what you read on head-fi, regarding bass, with a "pinch of salt" as they like to put it.

I tried contacting Sony in order to get myself a pair of XB1k's - but never got any luck or response. Despite single-handily selling well over 100 units of XB700's JUST via my YouTube review I posted over 2 years ago (I know that figure from people posting comment son my video and people PM'ing me)

I felt like after using the XB700 and then trying the XB1000 that you begin to realize how much better the mids and highs can be, besides the lower sub bass hitting harder of course. For the price that you can buy them now, it's well worth the upgrade. Maybe the UK has different prices but for the US I can either get the XB700's for $200 or get the XB1000's for $260.
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