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neg. noticeably reduced / recessed (from ideal) treble. No 8-9 kHz peak which is a joke really. There must be one due to the nature of the ear and how it curves up and down (both the pinna [fleshy outer part of the ear] and the earcanal, which slightly concaves in shape as a child grows up and the skull develops in shape during childhood until ~age 9) and how that affects human hearing perception. Grados are known for treble emphasis (thus too much from ideal which is diffuse field equalisation).

The 'human ear frequency response' is not flatline on a frequency response graph. Human ears are slightly less sensitive to bass thus there should be a slightly gradient down from 100Hz as well (Grados are also known to be bass recessed / bass light).
The raw data on Tyll's Innerfidelity website headphone sheets give better indicators tbh, in particular the beyerdynamic T1's raw data, which is as close as you really get to the average 'human ear frequency response'.

Basically give this a read, nice and concise, to the point and easy to digest:

http://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2010/05/headphone-equalization.html

The compensated Headroom graph have a flaw in how it's compensated and is not fully representative of the human ear as a result and different headphone measurement websites and headphone frequency response design have different compensation methodologies thus why comparing the raw data is much fairer as a result.

I already have that site in my bookmarks but thanks. I watched a couple panels on Tyll talking about his testing process, the state of testing headphones right now and aware how difficult headphones are to measure.

no HiFi headphones are perfect. every single one of them has at least one blemish holding it back from greatness. I know the Audeze LCD-2 are rolled.

I learned before I got into this hobby measurements are not everything. sometimes CAL or HCFR will generate a report with near perfect numbers but once I play some reference material it's immediate something is off and I have to put up some test patterns again to troubleshoot.
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I'm thinking about buying another pair of portable headphones, I can't decide between sen. hd 25 mark 2 or the tma aiaiai 1's both can be had for about $150..

also, would a o2 amp/dac be a improvement over using titanium hd sound card?
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I'm thinking about buying another pair of portable headphones, I can't decide between sen. hd 25 mark 2 or the tma aiaiai 1's both can be had for about $150..

also, would a o2 amp/dac be a improvement over using titanium hd sound card?

It really depends on the headphones you get and whether or not they need an amp to drive them. Most headphones benefit from an amp to some degree. A DAC is not really a pressing need unless you feel that your sound card is not doing your song files and cans justice. I personally feel like my amp and DAC's were great investments, but not everyone will share your opinion. I would worry about choosing the headphones first however, before worrying about an amp or DAC.
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Thought to share this video with you guys - my honest opinions. It is a long video:
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Thought to share this video with you guys - my honest opinions. It is a long video:

TL;DW?
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Filled out the club membershipz with My Fiio E10 + DT770's 80 pro.
On a side note tested friends Shure SH440 very specifc "ssssss" sounds on treble personaly i disliked them. Vocals were fine and bass was okish. For Comfort 1/10 though versus DT770's tho.
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TL;DW?

What's the even mean?
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What's the even mean?

Too long didn't watch
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Too long didn't watch

ah ok.
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ah ok.

I think he meant it's too long so he can't watch it but if you could explain it quickly that would be awesome, kind of like TL:DR.
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