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So what's with the love-hate on the HD 598?

I'm listening to a pair right now side-by-side with the HD 600, and they aren't too bad. I think they're decent for the $250 MSRP. I'd slot them in between the Q701 and DT 880/HD 600 for overall enjoyment, and might prefer them over the HD 650.

IMO their biggest strength is in sounding quite spacious without sounding anemic; a great alternative to the Q701.

Might be my first pick for competitive gaming at ~$200. I got my pair for half the price I got my HD 600 for, and I think it's a steal relatively speaking.

Why would you say they are better than the 650's?

Just wondering.
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It's not really so much better as much as my personal preference. The HD 650's tonal balance doesn't do it for me anymore since it strays too far from the upper midrange/lower treble emphasis that I've been indoctrinated with through my 2-month Audio-Technica love-fest. The HD 598 is a little closer to linear in this area, though it's no HD 600 (my personal favorite by no small margin).
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Just wondering something. Apart from the size, what are the other pros and cons of a 6.3mm jack over a 3.5mm?

And yes it has been a slow day to be wondering about jack sizes.

Agreed with previous comments about this. It's really just about the size, which has an effect on durability and so on. The smaller stuff is more prone to developing contact problems over time from mechanical wear, never mind snapping in half. That said, plenty of 3.5 mm jacks are rated for say 5,000 insertion cycles, though I kind of have my doubts sometimes.

Cons are being heavier and not natively fitting in 3.5 mm jacks. Yeah.

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It's not really so much better as much as my personal preference. The HD 650's tonal balance doesn't do it for me anymore since it strays too far from the upper midrange/lower treble emphasis that I've been indoctrinated with through my 2-month Audio-Technica love-fest. The HD 598 is a little closer to linear in this area, though it's no HD 600 (my personal favorite by no small margin).

Out of curiosity, is this with older or newer pads? I mean, HD 650 (and co.) are not the only headphones where this has an effect, but it's better documented for these.
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It's not really so much better as much as my personal preference. The HD 650's tonal balance doesn't do it for me anymore since it strays too far from the upper midrange/lower treble emphasis that I've been indoctrinated with through my 2-month Audio-Technica love-fest. The HD 598 is a little closer to linear in this area, though it's no HD 600 (my personal favorite by no small margin).

Fair enough, glad you find a substitute.

Still using my HD650's out of a laptop. Good but not amazing... Yet.

Just had to buy a HDMI cable at 9 at night. Quite funny actually,

The one I got was 3 meters for £15, however they had a 2 meter one with the words "Performance for LCD" on it and costs £18! It had the same sleaving and everything. No different!

Still payed far to much however.
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Out of curiosity, is this with older or newer pads? I mean, HD 650 (and co.) are not the only headphones where this has an effect, but it's better documented for these.

Both the HD 598 and HD 600 I have now are brand new; HD 598 naturally has much softer/fluffier pads though. The HD 650 I owned most recently had one or two months of use. The first HD 650 I owned was brand new and I did enjoy it quite a bit though I was coming from a Grado HF-2 (and moved on to the JHA JH13).

Both the 598 and 600 are pretty much only around to tie me over until my reterminated HE60 comes back on Wednesday (actually just sold/shipped my AKG K3003i this morning). After that, both will be finding new homes. thumb.gif
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Both the HD 598 and HD 600 I have now are brand new; HD 598 naturally has much softer/fluffier pads though. The HD 650 I owned most recently had one or two months of use. The first HD 650 I owned was brand new and I did enjoy it quite a bit though I was coming from a Grado HF-2 (and moved on to the JHA JH13).

Both the 598 and 600 are pretty much only around to tie me over until my reterminated HE60 comes back on Wednesday (actually just sold/shipped my AKG K3003i this morning). After that, both will be finding new homes. thumb.gif

I hope you take lots of pictures of the HE60's.

Just out of curiosity, what amp are you using and how do they sound?
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Found my dac biggrin.gifredface.gif big ol improvement! It's taking a little while to get used to it again, the stereo image is further back in my head rather than the rammed right in your face of my onboard. My T50RP's are part modded and sound better than stock but still not where I want them, still a little dark and the treble needs moar sparkle for starters smile.gif
    
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Most people were spoiled by the $60 HD555 pricetag and since the 595 was close enough to the 555 in terms of SQ, you almost had a 595 for $60. When the 558 and 598 came out, the price tag was significantly higher making people disgusted and not wanting to spend the 2x-3x price difference for the newer model thinking the differences were minimal or not worth it..now we can debate how much the difference is worth, but there's no debating that the 558 and 598 sound better than the 555 and 595.

Me personally would never spend over $150 on 598's, but that's just me. You could definitely recommend them to the right person, but it would take a strict budget, with the right person with certain needs...and those types are rare.
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Accidentally snapped the mouth off my SM3v2 :/
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So what's with the love-hate on the HD 598?

I'm listening to a pair right now side-by-side with the HD 600, and they aren't too bad. I think they're decent for the $250 MSRP. I'd slot them in between the Q701 and DT 880/HD 600 for overall enjoyment, and might prefer them over the HD 650.

IMO their biggest strength is in sounding quite spacious without sounding anemic; a great alternative to the Q701.

Might be my first pick for competitive gaming at ~$200. I got my pair for half the price I got my HD 600 for, and I think it's a steal relatively speaking.

Ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Now I will have to try them yet again. tongue.gif

Honestly I have really tried to sit down and listen to them on three separate occasions. I have tried three different amps with this headphones (1 tube / 2 SS) I thought they sounded way too laid back. Oddly enough I thought the clamping force was a bit more tight than even the 595s which I tired side by side, and the owner of the 598s had a pretty normal size head. I did not want to stretch it out considering I did not own them, but I would be curious to hear what you say.

The HD600s to me had a lot more bass. In fact I am really surprised to hear anyone put the two headphones in roughly the same playing field. The guy next to me tried on the HD600s and 650s and then the 598s. You could see his face (which was quite funny) go from smile.gif to smile.gif to wth.gif to sad-smiley-002.gif to who-let-rip-smiley.png.

To me it is one of those headphones where if they were on some great sale, they are very good, but for 250 bucks.........ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not my taste.

That being said, I will seek them out again. I finally have my new amp up and running, so maybe it will give these headphones the edge. *shrug*
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