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Speaking of cables, how much of a sound difference will they provide between the ones that come with the product (RCA cables for speakers and USB for Aune) and a more expensive "aftermarket" cable? Is it safe to assume the difference would be negligible?

Oh and as a side note, the DT990 Pro 250Ohms seem to be on sale for $140 on Amazon. I'm curious about if they actually meant to post the sale for the 990s or if it was supposed to be for 770s
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Speaking of cables, how much of a sound difference will they provide between the ones that come with the product (RCA cables for speakers and USB for Aune) and a more expensive "aftermarket" cable? Is it safe to assume the difference would be negligible?

Oh and as a side note, the DT990 Pro 250Ohms seem to be on sale for $140 on Amazon. I'm curious about if they actually meant to post the sale for the 990s or if it was supposed to be for 770s

Depends... for my headphones and interconnects, I couldn't hear any differences. For my previous TF10, I heard a boatload of differences.
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Question for everyone who uses a DAC or headphone amp.

Do any of you have hum, hiss, or noise from using one? (volume at 0)

Since I switched over to using an audio interface I haven't had this issue, fortunately.

It always bothered me a lot.
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Question for everyone who uses a DAC or headphone amp.

Do any of you have hum, hiss, or noise from using one?

Since I switched over to using an audio interface I haven't had this issue, fortunately.

It always bothered me a lot.

Depends on the amp honestly. I had that issue with the Lyr but not the O2 or Soloist.
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Question for everyone who uses a DAC or headphone amp.

Do any of you have hum, hiss, or noise from using one? (volume at 0)

Since I switched over to using an audio interface I haven't had this issue, fortunately.

It always bothered me a lot.

Nope, zero noise coming from mine even at max valume. I got a little bit from my onboard, but none from either my sound card or my discrete amp/DAC.
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Had a bit of hiss with my Schiit Vali but none with my Antique Sound Lab MG-Head OTL MK3
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Originally Posted by EpicPie View Post

Question for everyone who uses a DAC or headphone amp.

Do any of you have hum, hiss, or noise from using one? (volume at 0)

Since I switched over to using an audio interface I haven't had this issue, fortunately.

It always bothered me a lot.

I have zero hum myself. Current setup is still my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, plugged into an ART PB4x4 Pro (rackmount surge suppressor with power filtering). Both of my ART PB4x4 Pro's are plugged into the same wall outlet (my tower is plugged into my second PB4x4 Pro).

Do you have your audio interface plugged into the same outlet (or at least circuit) as your computer? ...Oh, wait, you're saying you don't have the issue now, my bad ^_^
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Originally Posted by EpicPie View Post

Question for everyone who uses a DAC or headphone amp.

Do any of you have hum, hiss, or noise from using one? (volume at 0)

Since I switched over to using an audio interface I haven't had this issue, fortunately.

It always bothered me a lot.

I think it depends on a couple things, most importantly the output impedance of the amp and input impedance of the headphones. For example my 32 ohm AD700X's hiss quite a lot on my Vali, but my 600 ohm DT880's are silent.
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Question for everyone who uses a DAC or headphone amp.

Do any of you have hum, hiss, or noise from using one? (volume at 0)

Since I switched over to using an audio interface I haven't had this issue, fortunately.

It always bothered me a lot.

I think it depends on a couple things, most importantly the output impedance of the amp and input impedance of the headphones. For example my 32 ohm AD700X's hiss quite a lot on my Vali, but my 600 ohm DT880's are silent.

There's also the actual noise floor of the upstream components (and the gain of the amp, if a significant contribution is from the DAC, which is rare except maybe sometimes onboard audio) and then the headphone sensitivity.

The noise is just another kind of signal that the headphones produce. The louder the headphones get with the actual signal you want from a given volume level (i.e. higher sensitivity), the louder they will produce noise as well. So for a given source, headphones with higher sensitivity and lower impedance will result in more hiss.

edit: on second thought, original wording sounds a lot meaner than intended, fixed and added more content
Edited by mikeaj - 3/18/14 at 5:11pm
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Speaking of cables, how much of a sound difference will they provide between the ones that come with the product (RCA cables for speakers and USB for Aune) and a more expensive "aftermarket" cable? Is it safe to assume the difference would be negligible?

Oh and as a side note, the DT990 Pro 250Ohms seem to be on sale for $140 on Amazon. I'm curious about if they actually meant to post the sale for the 990s or if it was supposed to be for 770s

USB is digital. So unless you need really thick shielding, no. It will not make a difference.

RCA, it can. It just depends on the situation. For instance if you compare a audio note silver RCA cable to a walmart cables, then yeah....you will hear a difference. But if you compare a decent mono price cable to a walmart cable.......eh. Not so much difference.
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Originally Posted by EpicPie View Post

Question for everyone who uses a DAC or headphone amp.

Do any of you have hum, hiss, or noise from using one? (volume at 0)

Since I switched over to using an audio interface I haven't had this issue, fortunately.

It always bothered me a lot.

Only if I am using USB or if I am using a high power speaker amp.
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Had a bit of hiss with my Schiit Vali but none with my Antique Sound Lab MG-Head OTL MK3

That is because your amp was a gift from the value/budget gods. Your experiences do not apply to the average consumer tongue.gif
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