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They are VERY lacking in the low-mids. They have a big drop from about 200Hz to 500Hz, and then are a bit recessed until about 1k. I found them far from lacking in the treble.

That looks more like between 150 and 350Hz. The 770s have a large dip in the 3-4khz range (which is where a lot of cymbal sounds sit, IIRC). Sound is pretty subjective though. People say the M50s are flat/neutral but to my ears they're the most v-shaped can I've ever used.
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I understand, I actually am not a HUGE fan of the DT880s. Don't get me wrong, they sound great, but the treble is definitely a little harsh for me. I want to try something different, since I don't have much experience yet, I don't know what I really like.
Thanks for the recommendation, I think I'm gonna try the 770s first though, I really like the Beyer design.

If you don't like the treble of the DT880s, I have a feeling you may feel the same about the 770s. The treble is very signature-esque of the Beyer line. You might want to look into something with a flatter response.
 
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How was that measured and generated, what smoothing, etc.?

Personally I hear something of a dip in the ~200 Hz range myself. Say, the headphones sound fine to me except a bit too much bass presence and maybe something funky in the treble (what headphone doesn't have maybe something funky in the treble?), and then some voice or line goes down into that range and seems a bit distant and soft. I can't say I remember anything about the 3-4 kHz thing myself, and if I did, I may not have noticed without being biased by seeing a graph (or maybe if doing a careful sweep through the frequencies).

For what it's worth, headroom's data:

It's unlisted, but those are probably the 250 ohm premium versions. The 600 and 32 ohms versions are marked differently.

The feature around 6-10 kHz is on all those models there, so if you complain about DT 880 treble harshness, it's kind of in the family, so to speak.


There are supposedly multiple versions of the ATH-M50 that sound different... maybe it just fits differently on different people as well too. Or so many people have heard it that some opinions diverge.
Edited by mikeaj - 3/20/14 at 4:14pm
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How was that measured and generated, what smoothing, etc.?

Personally I hear something of a dip in the ~200 Hz range myself. Say, the headphones sound fine to me except a bit too much bass presence and maybe something funky in the treble (what headphone doesn't have maybe something funky in the treble?), and then some voice or line goes down into that range and seems a bit distant and soft. I can't say I remember anything about the 3-4 kHz thing myself, and if I did, I may not have noticed without being biased by seeing a graph (or maybe if doing a careful sweep through the frequencies).

For what it's worth, headroom's data:

It's unlisted, but those are probably the 250 ohm premium versions. The 600 and 32 ohms versions are marked differently.

The feature around 6-10 kHz is on all those models there, so if you complain about DT 880 treble harshness, it's kind of in the family, so to speak.


There are supposedly multiple versions of the ATH-M50 that sound different... maybe it just fits differently on different people as well too. Or so many people have heard it that some opinions diverge.
It isn't mine so IDK. But yeah there is a low-mid dip, and I don't think that can be denied.
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1) Please don't use the averaged compensated data.

use the raw data e.g. : http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM50B2012.pdf

2)

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In other words, for it to be 'neutral' there must be that dip because that's how your ear canal is shaped.
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Hey everyone. I Just picked up a used Sennheiser HD 558 from amazon warehouse. I want to use them for gaming, what is a good mic to go with the headphone?

Also, I will be picking up the Schiit Magni soon, but how will I use it on the computer? Do I need the DAC also?

Thanks!
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Hey everyone. I Just picked up a used Sennheiser HD 558 from amazon warehouse. I want to use them for gaming, what is a good mic to go with the headphone?

Also, I will be picking up the Schiit Magni soon, but how will I use it on the computer? Do I need the DAC also?

Thanks!

If you're on a tight budget, a Zalman clip on mic is an option. If you can throw in another $30 or so, the ModMic is a better choice. If you're just using onboard, you can use a 3.5mm to RCA (red & white) cable to hook the Magni up to your PC. A DAC is probably recommended over the use of onboard, though.
 
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Figured I'd share a few pics of my gear smile.gif


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Looks good phillyd! I think maybe my next pair of headphones might have to be a pair of hifimans, they'd be alright running on a M&M stack, right?

Wish I could keep my desk that tidy tongue.gif it always ends up covered in letters and pieces of paper and junk haha
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Looks good phillyd! I think maybe my next pair of headphones might have to be a pair of hifimans, they'd be alright running on a M&M stack, right?

Wish I could keep my desk that tidy tongue.gif it always ends up covered in letters and pieces of paper and junk haha

The HE-400 and maybe the HE-5LE should work fine. The HE-400i and HE-560 will do fine on that amp.

I have plenty of junk drawers for all of the clutter smile.gif
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