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Once I learned the effects concerts had on my ears, I buckled down on everything about protecting my ears.

Oh @Tjj226 Angel; I see a Cavalli Glass will be at the Charlotte meet wink.gif.

If anything cinema - the speakers are always too damn loud. And for me to complain about something being too loud is very unusual (i really like listening pretty loudly)
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Once I learned the effects concerts had on my ears, I buckled down on everything about protecting my ears.

Oh @Tjj226 Angel; I see a Cavalli Glass will be at the Charlotte meet wink.gif.

Crap, when is that meet again? 16th right?

I am a radiator, fan, and a drive shaft away from making the meet.

Edit: 19th.

GO WELDING SHOP GO!!! GET ME MY DRIVE SHAFT!!!!!!!!!!!

Double edit: I will crush that stupid excuse for an amp. I MUST SHOW THE WORLD WHAT TUBES CAN DO medieval.gif
Edited by Tjj226 Angel - 3/31/14 at 1:24pm
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Crap, when is that meet again? 16th right?

I am a radiator, fan, and a drive shaft away from making the meet.

Edit: 19th.

GO WELDING SHOP GO!!! GET ME MY DRIVE SHAFT!!!!!!!!!!!

Double edit: I will crush that stupid excuse for an amp. I MUST SHOW THE WORLD WHAT TUBES CAN DO medieval.gif

Yeah, the 19th. And get to it wink.gif.

I'll be very curious to hear your gear if you're coming down smile.gif.
 
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Yeah, the 19th. And get to it wink.gif.

I'll be very curious to hear your gear if you're coming down smile.gif.

I just talked with a couple people, and I may be able to get a ride down there regardless of my car situation. We shall see. If I do come I will be carrying my stuff and some of spriggs's stuff.

So amps, jolida, stax stuff, the lot.

All I can say right now is that I am going to TRY to make it down there. It is only a 5 hour drive so I might be able to steal the family car for a day if worst comes to worst.
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Is it bad that I'm considering the idea of picking up a Schiit Bifrost alongside the Asgard2 (and quite possibly the Valhalla so I can test out my thoughts on tubes)? Sure my Focusrite interface is nice, but the idea of having a setup for just listening to music (and not all the extra stuff I use my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 for)...
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Is it bad that I'm considering the idea of picking up a Schiit Bifrost alongside the Asgard2 (and quite possibly the Valhalla so I can test out my thoughts on tubes)? Sure my Focusrite interface is nice, but the idea of having a setup for just listening to music (and not all the extra stuff I use my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 for)...

Yeah. Very bad actually.

1st: There are better and cheaper dacs than the Bifrost. The bifrost is not a bad dac. But the pricing just kills it. For much less, you can get the Odac and have extremely similar performance. I personally think the bifrost sounds more dynamic a little bit and possibly a bit smoother. But with the odac you will get 95% of the same sound quality for less than half the cost.

Another option is the cambridge audio dac magic, which IMO sounds smoother and less analytically than the bifrost for less money.

And you also have the jolida glass dac 3 which is much more open, smooth, and way less sterile than the bifrost.

2: The valhalla is OTL. It is not really a great representation of what tubes can do.

3: Only get the asgard 2 if you can not get the lyr.
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Yeah. Very bad actually.

1st: There are better and cheaper dacs than the Bifrost. The bifrost is not a bad dac. But the pricing just kills it. For much less, you can get the Odac and have extremely similar performance. I personally think the bifrost sounds more dynamic a little bit and possibly a bit smoother. But with the odac you will get 95% of the same sound quality for less than half the cost.

Another option is the cambridge audio dac magic, which IMO sounds smoother and less analytically than the bifrost for less money.

And you also have the jolida glass dac 3 which is much more open, smooth, and way less sterile than the bifrost.

2: The valhalla is OTL. It is not really a great representation of what tubes can do.

3: Only get the asgard 2 if you can not get the lyr.

Good to know the various points you've raised about the bifrost, especially regarding cost, especially since fully optioned out it's $519 USD.

That Jolida Glass Dac 3 looks... Well, it has the looks that much I can say. ^_^ I honestly don't know if I'd like tubes, or if they'd play well with my current two main pairs of headphones (AKG K712, and Audio Technica ATH-M50). I know they tend to sound "warmer", but beyond that I'm a tad... new to such.

Out of curiosity, why do you say the Lyr over the Asgard 2?
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Good to know the various points you've raised about the bifrost, especially regarding cost, especially since fully optioned out it's $519 USD.

That Jolida Glass Dac 3 looks... Well, it has the looks that much I can say. ^_^ I honestly don't know if I'd like tubes, or if they'd play well with my current two main pairs of headphones (AKG K712, and Audio Technica ATH-M50). I know they tend to sound "warmer", but beyond that I'm a tad... new to such.

Out of curiosity, why do you say the Lyr over the Asgard 2?

Tubes in the dac are not like tubes in a amp. They play a very smaller role in the sound than what most people give the dac credit for.

The lyr is like the asgard with a much smoother high end. The asgard is wayyyy too bright. If you ever get a chance to hear the magni and vali, it is the same thing. They sound very similar except the tube version does not have that really harsh and bright high range.
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Tubes in the dac are not like tubes in a amp. They play a very smaller role in the sound than what most people give the dac credit for.

The lyr is like the asgard with a much smoother high end. The asgard is wayyyy too bright. If you ever get a chance to hear the magni and vali, it is the same thing. They sound very similar except the tube version does not have that really harsh and bright high range.

I see. So tube DACs are more for the look with a very slight tweaking of the sound?

And if I'm understanding things, you'd recommend one of the previously mentioned DACs as well as the Lyr?
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I see. So tube DACs are more for the look with a very slight tweaking of the sound?

And if I'm understanding things, you'd recommend one of the previously mentioned DACs as well as the Lyr?

No the tubes do serve a sonic purpose, but the stock tubes that the jolida comes with are kind of bland. They really do not have a tube sound. It is really hard for me to explain, but the jolida as a stock device just sounds like a really good solid state dac that is less sterile sounding.

That being said, if you ever upgrade the tubes down the line to like mullards or something, then you start to get a really tubey sound from your dac.


Also, I am going to slightly rephrase what I said about the amp so that I make myself more clear.

I do not recommend that anyone buys any of the schiit products with the exception of the magni, modi, or vali for budget reasons. Schiit is probably one of the worst amp designers of all time and all of their solid state amps sound like thin shrill crap. I really do not even care for their tube amps. HOWEVER. If for some reason you are locked into buying a schiit amp, then the lyr is IMO the best one they offer.

It is extremely over priced because of the tubes, and the tubes barely do anything for the sound. The ONLY upside the lyr has is it is not overly bright and harsh.

Furthermore, if you were to get the jolida, it actually has a built in headphone amp. So you could just buy the jolida and not even worry about a separate headphone amp.

If you really wanted a headphone amp, then here are my two ultimate sub 500 dollar amp choices.

For solid state, I would get the parasound Zamp v3. IDK if anyone on this forum knows about parasound, but it is a solid state amp that actually sounds full and well bodied. It could have a slightly warm tilt, but IMO it actually sounds pretty clean and neutral without having a harsh or analytically sound like many other SS amps have. AND it is also a 2 channel speaker amplifier as well which means that the parasound amp could be the last amp you would need for audio.

For a tube amp, I would say that you should either get the best antique sound labs amp you can find/afford, or wait until I make my artisan page.
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