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As far as I know, S/PDIF is just a continuous unidirectional data stream type of protocol, not packetized like USB. Thus there should be no concept of when you schedule data to be sent (here, I mean "schedule" in a loose sense) and modes of operation like some kind of asynchronous mode because it's just data all the time. I guess the speed of the transfer depends on the bit depth / resolution.

If you want to avoid software resampling somewhere, you'd still have to make sure the output sample rate matches the audio data source. That said, it's 2014 and most software and/or OS resamplers do a pretty good job anyway.

I don't know when you'd ever want to change bit depth, though. You always want to select the highest the hardware supports unless somehow that's buggy. It's not like you lose anything by zero padding.

That makes sense. Thanks for the input! Any idea how much used, good condition Focal Spirit One's should be worth? Wondering what to offer...
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No idea about Focal Spirit Ones, but something around 70% Amazon price is a place to start haggling from.

A quick search of head-fi classifieds turns up offers (didn't check condition) of $135 (!), $165, $180. I think the $135's an outlier. Others are slightly higher than 70% of Amazon's $225+, which is what I'd expect for most headphones.
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I just got offered 180...I'll try to haggle near $150.
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No idea about Focal Spirit Ones, but something around 70% Amazon price is a place to start haggling from.

A quick search of head-fi classifieds turns up offers (didn't check condition) of $135 (!), $165, $180. I think the $135's an outlier. Others are slightly higher than 70% of Amazon's $225+, which is what I'd expect for most headphones.

The original Focal Spirit One (i.e. non-Pro/Classic) sold for ~$100 on Amazon Warehouse Deals at least once.
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No idea about Focal Spirit Ones, but something around 70% Amazon price is a place to start haggling from.

A quick search of head-fi classifieds turns up offers (didn't check condition) of $135 (!), $165, $180. I think the $135's an outlier. Others are slightly higher than 70% of Amazon's $225+, which is what I'd expect for most headphones.

The original Focal Spirit One (i.e. non-Pro/Classic) sold for ~$100 on Amazon Warehouse Deals at least once.

That begs the question...are they worth it?
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Speaking of prices, the cheapest HD800 I can find are $1200. Some guy was selling for $1100 and he changed it to $1200 earlier today. I hate my life. $1200 sound ok?
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When going all in for a $1200 pair of headphones, is the $100 that big of a difference? You'll always have good resale value if not. Why not make an offer since you noticed his price for cheaper. If it's Head-fi, I believe that is not allowed anyhow.
 
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It sounds like a bad idea.

First off, I have seen them for as low as 900. You just have to be patient really and check every available used gear website. USaudiomart, ebay, craigslist, are a few examples.

Second off, have you actually heard them yet? Have you compared them to the LCD-2, HD700, HE-6s and so on?

Lastly, male sure you have a good quality amp and dac. DO NOT USE THE ASUS STX!!!!! I do not care if the card is capable of driving the headphones, it WILL sound like crap and you WILL be wasting your money.

A well balanced audio chain is a much better option.
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When going all in for a $1200 pair of headphones, is the $100 that big of a difference? You'll always have good resale value if not. Why not make an offer since you noticed his price for cheaper. If it's Head-fi, I believe that is not allowed anyhow.

Yet I still care, I'm weird, right? :)

 

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It sounds like a bad idea.

First off, I have seen them for as low as 900. You just have to be patient really and check every available used gear website. USaudiomart, ebay, craigslist, are a few examples.

Second off, have you actually heard them yet? Have you compared them to the LCD-2, HD700, HE-6s and so on?

Lastly, male sure you have a good quality amp and dac. DO NOT USE THE ASUS STX!!!!! I do not care if the card is capable of driving the headphones, it WILL sound like crap and you WILL be wasting your money.

A well balanced audio chain is a much better option.

I'm going to listen to them tomorrow in fact, and try out alternatives. I've already bought the ODac + Amp combo.

 

Amazon has a good return policy though. I've never really tried that sort of stuff with Ebay and Craigslist is probably more shoddy. Never heard of USaudiomart.

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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

It sounds like a bad idea.

First off, I have seen them for as low as 900. You just have to be patient really and check every available used gear website. USaudiomart, ebay, craigslist, are a few examples.

Second off, have you actually heard them yet? Have you compared them to the LCD-2, HD700, HE-6s and so on?

Lastly, male sure you have a good quality amp and dac. DO NOT USE THE ASUS STX!!!!! I do not care if the card is capable of driving the headphones, it WILL sound like crap and you WILL be wasting your money.

A well balanced audio chain is a much better option.

Although I do not think that there is any problem buying the HD800, you can sell them off with almost no loss. I still strongly suggest that, if possible, you should try before you buy.

Be warned though, that the HD800 is not hard to drive, not like some orthos, but they are demanding. They are very revealing, and will show any flaws in the chain, a reason why some people like to use tube amp for it, which somewhat hides imperfections by adding more stuff.

Yea, even on the hdvd 800, the HD800 only sounded "ok" so I personally see it as "recommended system requirement" for hd 800.
Like playing a game on a pc which met "recommended requirement", it's quite playable, but you are not getting everything out of it.

Let's just say that for a decent HD 800 setup, HD800 itself is just the tip of the iceberg.
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