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It makes me feel dirty, but honestly this feels more balanced than a flat-line in the Xonar:

And sure it's not 100% perfect, but when I feel like it I will mess with it more.

Speaking of which, is there any sort-of external DAC that has an EQ? Or external EQ. Because I want to move away from my Xonar.

Some amps and DACs have EQs but it's not too common and generally all you're dealing with are very crude bass/treble controls. Certainly there's dedicated EQ hardware out there too. The better / cheaper stuff these days will tend to be digital of course, meaning they A/D, do the operations, and then D/A again, which for many audiophiles completely destroys the point of having a good DAC, right? But I think some of them maybe have optical (S/PDIF; digital) input and output.

I think you should be able to find analog hardware EQs on eBay or similar for not too much, but note that analog components like capacitors may have drifted over time, and you generally get less precision here and probably poorer filtering quality, etc.

Personally I would just use a software equalizer like this, which is much more flexible:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/
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I've never used an EQ before. Should I EQ the HD 800 when it arrives?

 

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For that matter, there are some people that suggest certain exact hardware mods to it (things like inserting damping materials of certain shapes in the cups in precise arrangements, etc.).

Anything with a relatively large sweet spot in terms of placement-related audio consistency, low distortion, generally minimal abrupt peaks and valleys in response, etc. should generally respond decently well to a little more fine tuning via EQ. I mean, even if Sennheiser had the perfect headphone it won't sound the same on your head as on whoever they had listening to it, including the test dummy head(s) with mics, and it might not necessarily be your preference. But I'd suggest taking a long listen to it before trying anything, if you do anything at all.
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But I'd suggest taking a long listen to it before trying anything, if you do anything at all.

You mean buying? If so, I'd suggest that mostly applies to buying new.

I'm a huge fan of the secondary market. If you score used headphones at a good price, it's very easy to sell it away at minimal/zero loss if you don't like it and/or decide to move on to something different.

I prefer it to the Amazon/retailer "trial" abuse as it doesn't pass the seller-side cost burden to other customers.

Sometimes you just have to know when to jump in -- for example, if you spot someone selling HD 800s for $800-900 or so. If I waited to try before buying, I wouldn't have ended up with the legendary SR-Omega. tongue.gif

I think the only headphones I've bought brand new for at or close to retail were the ES7s and JH13s.
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It makes me feel dirty, but honestly this feels more balanced than a flat-line in the Xonar:

And sure it's not 100% perfect, but when I feel like it I will mess with it more.

Speaking of which, is there any sort-of external DAC that has an EQ? Or external EQ. Because I want to move away from my Xonar.

Some amps and DACs have EQs but it's not too common and generally all you're dealing with are very crude bass/treble controls. Certainly there's dedicated EQ hardware out there too. The better / cheaper stuff these days will tend to be digital of course, meaning they A/D, do the operations, and then D/A again, which for many audiophiles completely destroys the point of having a good DAC, right? But I think some of them maybe have optical (S/PDIF; digital) input and output.

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Personally I would just use a software equalizer like this, which is much more flexible:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/

EQApo thing just plainly didn't work for me on Win8.1. It would intermittently work, which ended up with very strange sounds. I wonder if it would work on W7 now though.

Also I meant something more along the lines of digital, ie; before it reaches the DAC.

So;

Source-> USB out to EQ -> USB out to DAC -> amp -> headphones.

OR if there were good DACs with EQs.
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EQApo thing just plainly didn't work for me on Win8.1. It would intermittently work, which ended up with very strange sounds. I wonder if it would work on W7 now though.

Also I meant something more along the lines of digital, ie; before it reaches the DAC.

So;

Source-> USB out to EQ -> USB out to DAC -> amp -> headphones.

OR if there were good DACs with EQs.

Pipe something like this in between your digital output and DAC. You'll need a USB-to-SPDIF converter if your motherboard/sound card doesn't have an optical output.
Edited by friend'scatdied - 4/16/14 at 9:16am
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Why do people use SPDIF instead of USB all the way?

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I've never used an EQ before. Should I EQ the HD 800 when it arrives?

The Objective is taking it's sweet time to get here, bouncing around from state to state, lol.
The HD800 is going to have a different sound signature. You should let your brain get used to it then decide afterwards if you need an EQ. But HD800s have been known to have high peaks though.
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EQApo thing just plainly didn't work for me on Win8.1. It would intermittently work, which ended up with very strange sounds. I wonder if it would work on W7 now though.

Also I meant something more along the lines of digital, ie; before it reaches the DAC.

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OR if there were good DACs with EQs.

Pipe something like this in between your digital output and DAC. You'll need a USB-to-SPDIF converter if your motherboard/sound card doesn't have an optical output.

Thanks for the link, cant seem to get it here though. I'll keep something like that in-mind when I change to an external DAC redface.gif
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I'm about to pull a trigger on Fiio E07k. Will this DAC work with my headphones(Superlux hd681) ? (or maybe rather match my headphones). This little DAC seems to have a lot of nice reviews but I can't find any info on the behavior when playing electronic music(I don't listen to heavy-electronic music).
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