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Are you using WASAPI or ASIO? I'm using WASAPI, if I move the slider to zero it has no effect as it's being bypassed.

I was curious, and tested this with my iBasso D-Zero. Windows volume/volume keys have NO affect on on the volume the DAC out puts.
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Also, have you guys heard of USB DACs not giving all 16 or 24 bit audio when the computer volume is not max? Therefore NWavguy recommends having audio in Windows set to max and changing volume via volume knob on the DAC/Amp combo itself.


EDIT:
Reading this atm:
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-impedance-explained.html
Guessing that's a no to the first question...

An ohm is the unit of electrical impedance, not power or voltage or current or something that would make sense in the context.

Raising the volume setting means that the source is outputting a higher voltage level on pretty much every audio system. This means, for a given load (headphones), you get higher current and power via Ohm's Law and similar elementary relationships. The more power you put into the headphones, the louder the sound they will produce. i.e. the volume setting effectively thus increases the volume you get. Who'd have thunk? thumb.gif

If you are reducing the volume in software / OS anywhere, this is changing the audio data that is sent to the audio hardware. In other words, to get a lower volume the only option (the software has) available is to reduce the amplitude of everything. So if there is 16 bits of info per sample and you have 16 bit output, if you're say shifting the whole thing down by a couple bits so levels are 1/4 of before, you're losing 2 bits of precision before you even get to the hardware. With 16 bits of info per sample and 24 bit output, there's pretty much 8 zeros that can be shifted out before any more lowering reduces the precision.

The hardware itself has a noise floor too, and this doesn't scale (at least not much) with volume output. So shifting the signal level lower means it's at a lower level relative to noise, so you're tanking the SNR some.

In practice, the noise floor of whatever recording you're listening to, the ambient noise level in the room, and the fact that the relatively louder signal has a masking effect all mean that this stuff isn't often a big deal unless you're really dropping the volume a lot and then boosting it a lot later in hardware, in an amp, or with very sensitive IEMs.

You can hear for yourself the effect of bit depth reduction in some audio file hosted here (check the original video presentation for context):
http://ethanwiner.com/aes/



re: 0 volume

Yes, some external audio devices ignore whatever the OS volume setting is.
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Bit of an issue here. The Odac/Amp combo is now here. Apperently Tyler from Mayflower wrote on the package that it was 1 pound in weight when it's actually 1 pound and 8 ounces, and USPS freaked out and wanted me to pay $4.30, lol.

 

But that's not the problem. Sometimes when I plug to quarter inch into the quarter inch jack on the Desktop model, the sound will mostly only play on the right ear. The left ear volume becomes very faint. And if I pull the quarter inch out a little bit (disconnect it slightly), the left becomes full power but the right becomes a bit faint. I think I got it to work so both are equal volume, but I have to pull the quarter inch cable out a little bit, as in it's not 100% fully connected into the jack. It works now but I'm afraid if I'm doing it all correct and it's the product's fault, that this might cause problems in the future. Or maybe I leave it like this and it's fine forever. Or maybe I'm losing something from the sound quality, I just won't know. Who knows?

 

And with the O2, there is no need to adjust impedance, right. Just plug and play. With STX I had to go into their software to adjust. 

 

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I'm writing a research paper about headphones and buying headphones as an average consumer. I'll post it here when the first draft is done!

Ooo, for what class?


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I'm writing a research paper about headphones and buying headphones as an average consumer. I'll post it here when the first draft is done!
Ooo, for what class?
Do you have another quarter inch jack device to test your headphones/adapter on? If not, then just email Mayflower about both issues.

I'm just writing it for English, so it isn't TOO technical.
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Do you have another quarter inch jack device to test your headphones/adapter on? If not, then just email Mayflower about both issues.

I'm just writing it for English, so it isn't TOO technical.

Just tested by plugging in Rokits into sub, sub's 3.5mm to quarter inch. The difference between audio on left vs right is even worse now. The right speaker is several times louder than the left

 

 

Ugh, I hate shipping and all the hassle this will cause now.


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A little off topic, but just sent off for my safety awards at work the other day. We get so many points for how long we've been without an incident, which we can use to buy a bunch of random stuff, usually branded with my "Company's Name Safety Award" somewhere on it.

 

One of the things I ordered was a bluetooth speaker so I can listen to music in the kitchen. Hopefully it sounds half decent.

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A little off topic, but just sent off for my safety awards at work the other day. We get so many points for how long we've been without an incident, which we can use to buy a bunch of random stuff, usually branded with my "Company's Name Safety Award" somewhere on it.

One of the things I ordered was a bluetooth speaker so I can listen to music in the kitchen. Hopefully it sounds half decent.
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It's probably rubbish, but it's free essentially. I could have got a Sony dock instead, but then I wouldn't have had enough points for the $200 in gift cards to Canadian Tire that I'm gonna put towards an air conditioner for my apartment.

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Anyone ever have like a slight rattle in one ear-cup from their headphones?

I'm guessing it's just some debris inside, but it's ALWAYS the left-ear-cup.

Could this be something wrong with my HD650s? I have taken both sides apart like 10-15 times to see if I could find anything loose at all - nothing.
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