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well from my experience - for their price, they do incredibly well.
Depends on your budget really - but you might also want to consider a flat/neutral sounding GR07 MK2 also.
I think I might enjoy those. I'd consider $50, $75, $100 price points. But not now...later.
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I think I might enjoy those. I'd consider $50, $75, $100 price points. But not now...later.

cool beans - good amount of options.
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Why do the higher end headphones have two plugs (on each ear side) to the headphone itself instead of the standard 1 seen on cheaper headphones?

I just found out Audeze has the new LCD-x and LCD-XC.

Anybody tried the HE-6s?

And what are your thoughts on HD800 break in?

So that the lengths of wire are the same. The reasons could range from trying to eliminate channel imbalance to imply trying to make the cable more robust and durable. It really jut depends on what the company was thinking when they made the headphones.

Yeah, I have tried all of them. I really prefer the LCD3 over the LCD-x

the HE-6 are good, but you need pretty powerful amp.

And the LCD-XCs are really nice sounding, but the Mr. Speakers alpha dogs isolate better and sound 70% as good for almost half the price.
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Why do the higher end headphones have two plugs (on each ear side) to the headphone itself instead of the standard 1 seen on cheaper headphones?

I just found out Audeze has the new LCD-x and LCD-XC.

Anybody tried the HE-6s?

And what are your thoughts on HD800 break in?

So that the lengths of wire are the same. The reasons could range from trying to eliminate channel imbalance to imply trying to make the cable more robust and durable. It really jut depends on what the company was thinking when they made the headphones.

Yeah, I have tried all of them. I really prefer the LCD3 over the LCD-x

the HE-6 are good, but you need pretty powerful amp.

And the LCD-XCs are really nice sounding, but the Mr. Speakers alpha dogs isolate better and sound 70% as good for almost half the price.
That's a shame about the XC's. I'm sure I'd love the LCD-3'S though
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See we both sat down, stole a pair of HD800s and listened to them on about 20 different amps. They suck....they will always suck....and unless your brain comes with a bass boost of like 10DB then they will continue to suck for all eternity.

At the 1K plus range either go with the LCD2 or a stax headphone that suits your fancy.

Because sound signature will be the number one determinant for most people. If something has tonal disagreeability like excessive treble energy (which the HD 800 is certainly guilty of almost every time), it will instantly put it out of the running for most people. Frequency response aberrations are the easiest to deduce from initial listening, and most offensive.

What they'll miss out on is vanishingly low distortion, supremely clean decay and the widest and most precise soundstage still available today. With some cheap foam inserts and perhaps even some equalization on-top, the HD 800 are in a class of their own against other contemporary top dogs (Aud'eze included).

Yes, I agree that it's a pain to do that and not worth it for most people. In fact, I am so fed up with the excessive treble response of the Fostex TH-600 I have in front of me that I am going to test out the TH-600 cups on the AH-D2000s. If I like what I hear, I am going to transplant the D2000 drivers into the TH-600 shell permanently. I hope the resulting Denon TH-5000 will slice somewhere between the AH-D5000 and AH-D7000.

Speaking of which, I think the AH-D2000 is one of my favorite closed headphones. Bear in mind I've owned the AH-D7000, ATH-W3000ANV and now the TH-600 as well. Also should note my D2000 appear to be the newer 2012+ version (softer earpads), while my D7000s were older.
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So that the lengths of wire are the same. The reasons could range from trying to eliminate channel imbalance to imply trying to make the cable more robust and durable. It really jut depends on what the company was thinking when they made the headphones.

Please, channel balance? Maybe, but only from a marketing perspective or appearances. I mean, the imbalance caused by less than a foot of extra wire to go between the cups for one of the channels is way less than sample-to-sample variance between the drivers, one of which you're getting stuffed into the left side and another one into the right side. Even if they're very carefully matching drivers in the factory to find similar ones to put together as pairs, these differences are still much greater.

More equal weight distribution could be another thing, if you really want to go there. Not having to figure out a way to wire the two cups together is another.
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Because sound signature will be the number one determinant for most people. If something has tonal disagreeability like excessive treble energy (which the HD 800 is certainly guilty of almost every time), it will instantly put it out of the running for most people. Frequency response aberrations are the easiest to deduce from initial listening, and most offensive.

What they'll miss out on is vanishingly low distortion, supremely clean decay and the widest and most precise soundstage still available today. With some cheap foam inserts and perhaps even some equalization on-top, the HD 800 are in a class of their own against other contemporary top dogs (Aud'eze included).

Yes, I agree that it's a pain to do that and not worth it for most people. In fact, I am so fed up with the excessive treble response of the Fostex TH-600 I have in front of me that I am going to test out the TH-600 cups on the AH-D2000s. If I like what I hear, I am going to transplant the D2000 drivers into the TH-600 shell permanently. I hope the resulting Denon TH-5000 will slice somewhere between the AH-D5000 and AH-D7000.

Speaking of which, I think the AH-D2000 is one of my favorite closed headphones. Bear in mind I've owned the AH-D7000, ATH-W3000ANV and now the TH-600 as well. Also should note my D2000 appear to be the newer 2012+ version (softer earpads), while my D7000s were older.

I am thinking about using a little bit of EQ for the HD800s once the Objective is in. 6khz spike? Or something? We'll see, I've never used EQ before. But the hot treble doesn't seem to bother me as much by default compared to some of the other people who want to stay the hell away from the HD800's treble at all costs. :devil:

 

But you know what I just realized?

 

I need to stop worrying about other options to the HD800. The HD800s are great, I think it's world-class headphone, very good sound stage, lightweight, I enjoy the look, when the Objective FINALLY arrives it'll be even greater. So I can stop thinking about the money I spent, and just enjoy the god damn product. Other people's opinions are their own, it shouldn't bother me. :thumb: 

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Oh, please. rolleyes.gif

Though it would be pretty difficult to argue with the HD 800 if it successfully replicated the overall sound signature of, say, a HD 600.

I'm sorry, has my opinion offended you? rolleyes.gif
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Why do the higher end headphones have two plugs (on each ear side) to the headphone itself instead of the standard 1 seen on cheaper headphones?

I just found out Audeze has the new LCD-x and LCD-XC.

Anybody tried the HE-6s?

And what are your thoughts on HD800 break in?
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So that the lengths of wire are the same. The reasons could range from trying to eliminate channel imbalance to imply trying to make the cable more robust and durable. It really jut depends on what the company was thinking when they made the headphones.

Yeah, I have tried all of them. I really prefer the LCD3 over the LCD-x

the HE-6 are good, but you need pretty powerful amp.

And the LCD-XCs are really nice sounding, but the Mr. Speakers alpha dogs isolate better and sound 70% as good for almost half the price.

I have to agree that the LCD-3s were the only ones that really caught my attention. Just a more mature, and much better everything compared to the LCD 2(.2).

The HE-6 at the meet were nice, and much like the LCD-3, among it's lower-model brethren, it was the best I believe they had to offer. The HE-500 were definitely nice, and at the price they go for now, give the HD650 a good run for it's money. It's all dependent on the sound signature you're looking for.

As for the HD800, my explanation is that it wasn't just that it wasn't my sound-type, as even the AKGs (from Q701 to K1000) all represented a more lively sound. Even a more natural bass. Sure it has treble energy, but the best I can give you is that if you loved the Ety ER-6i and ER-4P, than the HD800 is the full-sized headphone you've been looking for your entire life. The HD800 out of a SS amp is like putting HID lights in reflective housings.
 
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I'm positive I wouldn't enjoy the HD800, which is a shame, because the custom ones are the best looking headphones on earth IMO.


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They are an extremely light and comfortable headphone that make even the HD600 and HD650 seem inferior. However, based on your tastes, I doubt it. Maybe if you find THE perfect DAC, Tube amp and perfect set of tubes, but that's a big maybe.
 
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