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any tube amps at the meet? redface.gif

.........any tube amps at the meet....

Geez bumblebee, who do you think you are talking too tongue.gif

I actually brought a couple, but my main amp did not survive the trip sad-smiley-002.gif

So I brought the shoe box amp which is a 12ax7 feeding a 12bh7.

No one liked the amp until I swapped the JJ 12bh7 for a telefunken 12au7 802.

There were several woo audio amps there, the cavali liquid fire, the lyr, BHSE which unfortunately had a HORRIBLE source hooked up to it, Moth audio 2A3, and a few eddie current amps.
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any tube amps at the meet? redface.gif
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Just as a note, I haven't tried any Beyers out yet smile.gif They're more of a curiosity for me, I suspect.

With the K712's, they were more of a surprise purchase, mainly because things that are highly subjective (read: most audio products) I usually won't even think about picking up until I've spent a good amount of time demoing them with high quality versions of music I listen to. Thankfully, the day the local shop I deal with got two pairs of K712's in I happened to stop in, and wound up spending about 35 minutes or so just listening to them, and of course walked out with them (they were already on my wish list, I just wanted to listen to them first). They were my first pair of open headphones ^_^

Yeah, I favored the 812's out of the WA7 Fireflies, though I didn't get to try it off of Tjj's amp (he's going to kill me for saying I liked anything WooAudio smile.gif).
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.........any tube amps at the meet....

Geez bumblebee, who do you think you are talking too tongue.gif

I actually brought a couple, but my main amp did not survive the trip sad-smiley-002.gif

So I brought the shoe box amp which is a 12ax7 feeding a 12bh7.

No one liked the amp until I swapped the JJ 12bh7 for a telefunken 12au7 802.

There were several woo audio amps there, the cavali liquid fire, the lyr, BHSE which unfortunately had a HORRIBLE source hooked up to it, Moth audio 2A3, and a few eddie current amps.

This guy smile.gif
 
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BHSE which unfortunately had a HORRIBLE source hooked up to it

BHSE or KGBH? I only see the KGBH with the SR-009s in the photos, and the Jades and SR-007 seemed to be hooked up to a WEE with some valve amp.

I hate the KG designs with the SR-009. The KGSSHV was just intolerably bright and all wrong except with the SR-007Mk1. I'd like to believe that the people that enjoy pairings with the KGSSHV are old-time hi-fi guys with too much coin and too little high frequency hearing sensitivity.

One listen with the KGSSHV + Omega was enough for me to decide I won't be getting it or the BHSE.
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The 02 is really stupid. It could be unbeatable at the price range if they did a version with RCA in on the back, power input and switch on the back. a black 1/4" headphone port on the front, volume knob and gain switch on the front.
A good 02/ODAC combo would have power, USB in, RCA in and line level RCA out on the back. The front would have a headphone/line out switch, gain switch, headphone out and volume.

The O2 is not stupid, just that the designer some design decisions based on portability as the O2 was not supposed to be a desktop amp. That would have been the ODA, but the designer disappeared before getting that far.
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BHSE or KGBH? I only see the KGBH with the SR-009s in the photos, and the Jades and SR-007 seemed to be hooked up to a WEE with some valve amp.

I hate the KG designs with the SR-009. The KGSSHV was just intolerably bright and all wrong except with the SR-007Mk1. I'd like to believe that the people that enjoy pairings with the KGSSHV are old-time hi-fi guys with too much coin and too little high frequency hearing sensitivity.

One listen with the KGSSHV + Omega was enough for me to decide I won't be getting it or the BHSE.

Both were there. Justin showed up later in the day, so it is possible that they have no pics of him.

The K amp (seriously, it needs a better name) is kind of meh. It was the same one that has been up here in DC and was sold to the guy in NC. The poor guy was also using EL34s which IMO is the worst choice for that amp.

See, the amp is really going to depend on what tube you use. Unlike normal tube rolling, this amp can accept a variety of completely different tubes. I have normally heard it with EL34s which are indeed way too bright, but justin from headamp has some like really obscure tubes that sort of look like KT66 tubes that really warm up the sound.
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The O2 is not stupid, just that the designer some design decisions based on portability as the O2 was not supposed to be a desktop amp. That would have been the ODA, but the designer disappeared before getting that far.

Agreed. The stupidity of the design choices fall squarely on the people who make the chassis.

I also feel like it would make a terrible preamp anyways.
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See, the amp is really going to depend on what tube you use. Unlike normal tube rolling, this amp can accept a variety of completely different tubes. I have normally heard it with EL34s which are indeed way too bright, but justin from headamp has some like really obscure tubes that sort of look like KT66 tubes that really warm up the sound.

Which is ridiculous.

The amplifier should perform ideally with the vacuum tubes it was designed for within the schematic. If it doesn't, it sucks. No one should pay $6000 for something that doesn't perform correctly in the default configuration.

The KGSSHV isn't even a valve amplifier yet it's so bright with the SR-009. I'm very eager to get some comprehensive cross-measurements in between the SRM-323S, SRM-717 (a "Stax KGSS"), BHSE, KGSSHV, and EC Electra driving the SR-007 and SR-009.
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The guy from HeadAmp didn't look pleased to be there at all. As if he had better things to do. Besides that, everyone else was great.
 
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Was it Justin?

He's going through finishing and shipping a huge batch of BHSEs (backlog of orders as early as 18 months ago), so I can imagine he's pretty stressed.
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Which is ridiculous.

The amplifier should perform ideally with the vacuum tubes it was designed for within the schematic. If it doesn't, it sucks. No one should pay $6000 for something that doesn't perform correctly in the default configuration.

The KGSSHV isn't even a valve amplifier yet it's so bright with the SR-009. I'm very eager to get some comprehensive cross-measurements in between the SRM-323S, SRM-717 (a "Stax KGSS"), BHSE, KGSSHV, and EC Electra driving the SR-007 and SR-009.

.................Ok so here is the thing. The K amp was not designed for a particular tube, it was designed to use a power pentode (further more it could very well be a pentode strapped in triode mode, but I am not sure). The designer did not sit there and say "geee I think I am going to use a psvane EL34 for this amp". That would be stupid and rather pointless.

Besides, I am not entirely sure the EL34 is what the designer was using to begin with.
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Adata SP900  Seagate 2TB hard drive (the power of 1 edition)  Custom WC Loop Linux (various versions) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster T240HD Coolermaster XT Green switches XFX 1000w Corsair 800D 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Razer Naga Epic 2014 edition Razer Vespula Stax Lambda Nova Classic Custom DIY DAC 
AudioAudioOther
300b PP monoblocks Snell J3 NZXT Hue 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
8 core xeon E6 @ 3.5ghz 8 core xeon E6 @ 3.5ghz EVGA X99 SR?  AMD 390x 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveCooling
AMD 390x 128 GB ECC DDR4  1TB PCI-e SSD Custom WC Loop 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Linux 16:10 Samsung PLS 4K monitor Corsair RGB keyboard with custom cherry MX supe... EVGA 1600 watt titanium  
CaseMouseAudio
Caselabs Magnum STH10 DIY my own mouse Snell J 3 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4820K Gigabyte X79 UP4 GTX 660 (waiting for new AMD cards) Samsung green  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Adata SP900  Seagate 2TB hard drive (the power of 1 edition)  Custom WC Loop Linux (various versions) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster T240HD Coolermaster XT Green switches XFX 1000w Corsair 800D 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Razer Naga Epic 2014 edition Razer Vespula Stax Lambda Nova Classic Custom DIY DAC 
AudioAudioOther
300b PP monoblocks Snell J3 NZXT Hue 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
8 core xeon E6 @ 3.5ghz 8 core xeon E6 @ 3.5ghz EVGA X99 SR?  AMD 390x 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveCooling
AMD 390x 128 GB ECC DDR4  1TB PCI-e SSD Custom WC Loop 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Linux 16:10 Samsung PLS 4K monitor Corsair RGB keyboard with custom cherry MX supe... EVGA 1600 watt titanium  
CaseMouseAudio
Caselabs Magnum STH10 DIY my own mouse Snell J 3 
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