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I am having a hard to wording this with out sounding aggresive so dont think of it as that.
Why would any of this make a diffrence? i mean yeah its silver but the current is still made up of electrons. asfar as i know the only thing that would make a difference is if the currents frequency was altered in which case it is not only a cable.
The thing is, have you tried a decent quality silver cable against a decent copper cable? If you have the chance, try it, there is a difference....other than top end (treble) sounding more forward, there're other differences as well (NOT gonna say, just try it yourself and see if you can hear the differences). I was actually surprised to hear some differences, really surprised me given the state of my hearing.

Just like I've always thought that all USB cables were the same, so the ones used for hooking up your printer to the computer would work just as well when used for audio when connecting a PC to a desktop DAC (after all, they simply carry digital '1's' and '0's', don't they?). While it does work for most, some of us have issues with them. I tried a cheap generic USB and a budget Audioquest Forest USB cable for my Gustard X12, I get intermittent cutoffs. It fared even worse with my Oppo HA1 which consistently failed to 'see' it. But, when I used a Straightwire audio grade USB cable, my Gustard didn't suffer cutoffs, my Oppo HA1 was immediately 'seen' by my PC, and I never got cutoffs or failure to 'see' the DAC. That's why, recently, I'd gotten another audio grade 1.5m USB cable for my Gustard, got kinda tired of intermittent cutoffs and failure to connect. And no, ain't gonna buy into those 'snake oil' unicorn fart USB cables that cost a bomb and promises 'day and night' difference.......no sirree, my mama didn't raise no fool!biggrin.gif
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No problem i just want to understand if there is a real diffrence and if yes what does it do and why is there, so i am sorry if i seemed to be excessively questioning your choices.
you buy what you want i buy what is want, no harm is done
I am having a hard to wording this with out sounding aggresive so dont think of it as that.
Why would any of this make a diffrence? i mean yeah its silver but the current is still made up of electrons. asfar as i know the only thing that would make a difference is if the currents frequency was altered in which case it is not only a cable.

Different conductivity, electrical resistance, and to a much lesser degree oxidation rate would be the short answer.
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Different conductivity, electrical resistance, and to a much lesser degree oxidation rate would be the short answer.

yeah but those should not translate to diffrent sound since they can be overcome by more electrons. the only thing that could change sound is if the wave lenght and frequency changes and asfar as i know resistance does not do that.
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yeah but those should not translate to diffrent sound since they can be overcome by more electrons. the only thing that could change sound is if the wave lenght and frequency changes and asfar as i know resistance does not do that.


That has nothing to do with it.

Its not about changing the actual signal. Its about changing how the power is delivered to your headphones.
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Thank you and + Rep for the recommendation! I hope their prices are reasonable? Any idea on how much a 6 foot cable might cost?

I got a bestintheverse cable for my LCD 2. It looks great in person. Unfortunately, I only have this picture of it and it doesn't really do the colors justice:



As for price, I don't really remember exactly what it was and it kind of varies per headphone. If I had to guess, you would probably be looking at $75-100 depending on what options you select. However, you said you were looking for something that was a little softer and not so rigid correct? If so, then I don't think I would recommend these cables. They're pretty stiff and don't bend very easily. However, if you don't care too much about that, I would highly recommend them.
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That has nothing to do with it.

Its not about changing the actual signal. Its about changing how the power is delivered to your headphones.

How it is delivered wont make a difrence in sound, which is what people claim.
sorry if i sound aggresive
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I think I may have run an experiment where I plugged in a single channel to each of my earpieces and played the same channel on both (i.e. either right or left). I don't think I was able to tell them apart but then again I was using different eardrums. tongue.gif

FWIW the stock JH13 cables are copper-based.
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That has nothing to do with it.

Its not about changing the actual signal. Its about changing how the power is delivered to your headphones.

How it is delivered wont make a difrence in sound, which is what people claim.
sorry if i sound aggresive

FWIW inherently if the "actual signal" is not changed then there is no change in "how the power is delivered." But maybe the words are being meant in some very loose, non-technical ways that I'm not used to seeing and I'm not getting the real point.
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How it is delivered wont make a difrence in sound, which is what people claim.
sorry if i sound aggresive

V=IR

Argument over do not listen to stupid head-fi people.
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Hey Guys! I just added a new headphone to my collection! I couldn't resist and I picked it up for $425 instead of $565 ($499 + shipping to me) brand new! The only negative thing about the deal is that I get the headphone with the screw type connector and not the 2.5 mm type connector. Not a big deal for me in all honesty, but I may need new cables...



I like the sound signature, it's cleaner and brighter in the highs than my Fidelio X2s which is grainy at times. The sub bass is definitely better than the X2 as the X2 has a more pronounced mid bass versus sub bass. The Fidelio definitely is a tad bit warmer sounding but it lacks the speed of the HE-400i (if that makes sense). Sounds pretty good with my E17 / E09k setup, I don't hear the overly bright highs that some are mentioning, at least with my setup.

Sometimes though the bass seems lacking in certain songs (it's probably me getting used to the mid bass of the X2s), Hifiman is saying that I need to put in 150 hours of burn in for the driver and I'm hoping it does make a difference. biggrin.gif

By the way, can anyone recommend some nice cables for my new cans? Not looking for any silver cable or any of that expensive stuff, I just find the Hifiman cables stiff and wish to have a more pliable / soft cable.

I will give a better recommendation next week when mine shows up but check this guy out http://www.head-fi.org/u/388314/q2klepto. He's about to open his online store (I was the first order on his site) and his cables look amazing! It helps that he used to have a Hifiman HE-400 (my headphones) and now has a HE-400i. He has cables at lots of pricing options too. He's actually on here as well @jerrolds. I'm sure he can make you something that fits what you want and your budget!
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