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Gobbledygook! Even the guys over at HC dig Schiit's multibit Schiit.

I'm considering an Audio Note 4.1 but I don't really want valves in my DAC.

I have heard the yigda what ever and the gungnir multibit. I have pretty much heard everything that have except for the mul what ever 2

Everything schiit makes has a slight synthetic sound. IDK if it is because they are using crappy resistors, or crappy transformers or what.

There is something that fundamentally effects every one of their products. And I can say this with confidence because I have heard modified schiit stuff that sounds much more natural.

Until they can get their schiit together, I still think burson amps and cambridge audio dacs are a better route for the mid-fi level.


As for audionote stuff.

Don't get a kit. If you are looking at a kit, forget about it. They do not use the same quality of parts as the regular dacs use.

If you do not want tubes, either get the timbre TT-1 or the synthesis matrix.
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I have heard the yigda what ever and the gungnir multibit. I have pretty much heard everything that have except for the mul what ever 2

Everything schiit makes has a slight synthetic sound. IDK if it is because they are using crappy resistors, or crappy transformers or what.

There is something that fundamentally effects every one of their products. And I can say this with confidence because I have heard modified schiit stuff that sounds much more natural.

Until they can get their schiit together, I still think burson amps and cambridge audio dacs are a better route for the mid-fi level.

I see similar remarks about Schiit DACs whenever they're compared to a DAC that's well received by all (especially those in the speaker realm). The lack of "analog" type sound they say.
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I'll see what I can do, the TT-1 is definitely the one I want most. Which would you say is the second best out of those? Admittedly the Audio Note DAC 3 is just out of my price range.

That is a hard one.

Jolida.

The dac 2.1 might sound a bit better, but it is bulkier and its higher maintenance. Its probably not worth it over the jolida.

If you get a bigger tax return than you were expecting, the the dac 3 signature is actually a really good price.
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Everything schiit makes has a slight synthetic sound. IDK if it is because they are using crappy resistors, or crappy transformers or what.

There is something that fundamentally effects every one of their products. And I can say this with confidence because I have heard modified schiit stuff that sounds much more natural.

Until they can get their schiit together, I still think burson amps and cambridge audio dacs are a better route for the mid-fi level.
The listings you'd posted are mostly NOS and/or tube-buffered options, right? Might be differences in taste.

I know I consider Burson products to be gooey, congested, muddy, and low-resolution (don't remember the Cambridge stuff). I tend to go for higher resolution and clarity but yes the Yggdrasil at the very least is a little edgy.

In other news I'm debating between keeping my current speakers or tossing them for either Mini Maggies or Quad ESLs (latter is a long shot since I don't really have that much space).
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Hey anyone have opinions on this? https://www.massdrop.com/buy/appj-1502a-tube-headphone-amplifier
Obviously better tubes are in order...but other than that?
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The listings you'd posted are mostly NOS and/or tube-buffered options, right? Might be differences in taste.

I know I consider Burson products to be gooey, congested, muddy, and low-resolution (don't remember the Cambridge stuff). I tend to go for higher resolution and clarity but yes the Yggdrasil at the very least is a little edgy.

In other news I'm debating between keeping my current speakers or tossing them for either Mini Maggies or Quad ESLs (latter is a long shot since I don't really have that much space).

No. The TT-1 is not made anymore because the company went out of business but it is not old enough to truly be NOS and it is 100% solid state.

The Belcanto is also solid sate and is still in production.

The other solid state dac that is still in production that I like is the synthesis matrix. But it is really a pain in the butt to buy one. You have to contact a dealer then they either have one on hand that they can sell you for a pretty penny, or they have to order one in from itally. It sounds great, but it is just kind of a pain to get your hands on one.

As for burson............uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what? Very much the opposite. I am speaking specifically about the soloist and the conductor. Those are probably the only two amps that make the LCD2s sound open, clear, and pretty detailed. Many other people agree with me on that. You are the first person I have ever heard say that. The only thing I like about them is they do not have a sharp sibilant that a lot of other sub 1K solid state amps have.

Maybe you heard the soloist SL or one of their lower end amps?


I have some magnepans 1.7s and I absolutely love them.

The problem is, I literally have nothing that can drive them. You can plug them directly into the sun and I am pretty sure you still would not have enough power.

The mini magnies are not much better and you need the bass panel to really bring the whole setup together.

Quad made a bunch of different ESL speakers, so IDK which one in particular you are looking at. ESL57s? If so, then I would only buy them rebuilt from a reputable dealer. A lot of the ESL speakers are quite finicky and the circuit boards die.
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Tjj (and the others that pay attention to these things but who's names I always seem to forget), any thoughts on the various offerings from Violectric?
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As for burson............uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what? Very much the opposite. I am speaking specifically about the soloist and the conductor. Those are probably the only two amps that make the LCD2s sound open, clear, and pretty detailed. Many other people agree with me on that. You are the first person I have ever heard say that.
Disagree. Go to any recent meets (at least on the west coast) and many will readily voice their opinions that Burson tends to sound overly smoothed over and mushy, ever since the HA160 and all the way to their Conductor. You'll also notice that Audeze have really fallen out of favor versus Hifiman and Sennheiser but that's a different story altogether (I still don't mind a good pre-Fazor 2.2).

I'll take any Schiit product over any Burson simply because the latter has always sounded overly warm and gooey and today's critics seem to agree. There's a reason meets have been taken over by one and not the other (and Burson had some pretty infamous marketing with their opamp BS).

There's something seriously wrong when an amplifier makes the HD 800 sound muddy...

Since you mention them not making things sound sharp/sibilant I guess we can chalk it up to differences in taste. One man's muddy is another man's lack of sibilance, etc.
Edited by friend'scatdied - 2/1/16 at 9:49pm
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