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There are nice speaker amps for well under $1k (and I wouldn't touch a HiFiMan amp with a ten foot pole). I've heard good things about the HE-6 being paired with this:

http://diyaudiostore.com/collections/kits/products/amp-camp-amp-kit
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There are nice speaker amps for well under $1k (and I wouldn't touch a HiFiMan amp with a ten foot pole). I've heard good things about the HE-6 being paired with this:

http://diyaudiostore.com/collections/kits/products/amp-camp-amp-kit

That's definitely good to know... I think why I mentioned the cost is total setup... A good DAC as well as the amp.

Why do I suspect I'm going to wind up with a solution rather similar to what I currently have, where it's two sets of headphones? One for all-around listening (and gaming), and then a second for when I just need that brain scrambling bass? Well, I don't know if making scrambled eggs of brain matter is exactly how loud and punchy I like my bass, but still.
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That's definitely good to know... I think why I mentioned the cost is total setup... A good DAC as well as the amp.

Why do I suspect I'm going to wind up with a solution rather similar to what I currently have, where it's two sets of headphones? One for all-around listening (and gaming), and then a second for when I just need that brain scrambling bass? Well, I don't know if making scrambled eggs of brain matter is exactly how loud and punchy I like my bass, but still.

Maybe you won't, the HE-6 can deliver thunderous bass, and that's without overpowering the mids (actually the mids are one of its best aspects, as is the bass).
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Maybe you won't, the HE-6 can deliver thunderous bass, and that's without overpowering the mids (actually the mids are one of its best aspects, as is the bass).

Aaaaaand we're back to debating between the two for a single headphone be all end all setup, or at least that's where I think you're going with this.

Biggest concern though is that if there truly is thunderous bass with them, is that going to afffect the various racing, fantasy, and strategy games I play - or would such be something that's easily enough fixed with having a different EQ to run when gaming?

EDIT: I know this much. With a single pair of headphones, I'd probably be a lot more willing to spend closer to the budget of what a Violectric V289+V850 would be (approximately $3,125 USD or so not including shipping) if it was just one pair of $1,200-1,500 USD headphones and that pair would be able to cover everything.

Oh, and anything with piano or classical instruments would have to sound really close to the real thing too, something about having grown up around so many classical instruments and a piano that sounds slightly "off" tends to drive me bonkers.
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I will admit though, that the idea of using a speaker amp (or an expensive DAC in combination with HiFiMan's amplifier designed for the HE-6's) doesn't quite appeal to me. I suspect that while I know I want a good, "end game" kind of setup, I'm just not willing to shell out $4.5-5k USD for such. $3-3.5k USD is probably my upper limit, and I would then use the other cash for a good mobile setup (because I enjoy going for walks and just relaxing to the music, so naturally I know a good portable setup would be next, and I'm also contemplating custom IEMs for such a task).

Interestingly enough though, with all the reviews I've read through, I keep pulling up the MrSpeakers Ethers and Oppo HA-1 pages. I suspect at least one reason why I've been doing this though: overall, I actually do like my K712's, and while I do tend to reach for my ATH-M50X's for more bass intensive music I have a hunch that a decent EQ software might very well be able to bump that area up a touch closer to what I want.
As above, there are quality speaker amp options south of $1k and you can get a switchbox to be able to effortlessly alternate between the HE-6 and passive speakers.

With $3-3.5k just get the HE-6 brand new for under $1k, the Schiit Gungnir Multibit for $1.2k, and spend the rest on a speaker amp (maybe even with speakers) and call it a day.

Ignore the MrSpeakers and Oppo hype train. With the HE-6 you have validations from people who actually own absolute summit gear (e.g. Stax). With most of the FOTM products at head-fi, the owners have little-to-no experience with true high-end gear and end up becoming shills because they don't know or haven't heard better.
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As above, there are quality speaker amp options south of $1k and you can get a switchbox to be able to effortlessly alternate between the HE-6 and passive speakers.

With $3-3.5k just get the HE-6 brand new for under $1k, the Schiit Gungnir Multibit for $1.2k, and spend the rest on a speaker amp (maybe even with speakers) and call it a day.

Ignore the MrSpeakers and Oppo hype train. With the HE-6 you have validations from people who actually own absolute summit gear (e.g. Stax). With most of the FOTM products at head-fi, the owners have little-to-no experience with true high-end gear and end up becoming shills because they don't know or haven't heard better.

With the recommendation for speaker amps I have one BIG question: Just how do you control the volume? I don't want to be having to constantly mess around with windows system volume, as an example.

Speakers are a no go due to living in an old apartment building, so are something I'm not willing to look into at this time even if I were to get a really REALLY good deal on a pair of high end ones. Place is too small to be storing items for several years that only collect dust.

As for the Schiit Gungnir recommendation, would there be any benefit to also getting the Mjolnir 2 with it (with the "mixpack" of tubes and LISST to be able to try such things out), or would it not have enough power to run the HE-6's? I'm asking mainly due to two reasons - first being aesthetics (the two together look nice, and I'd be willing to have them in silver if I didn't have a choice. Also, they use white LEDs instead of blue ones (I'm light sensitive, and the blue LEDs used in a lot of hardware give me headaches almost immediately... that worsens as seconds go by)), and the second being my curiosity regarding tubes (with the fallback of being able to use the LYSST solid state stuff if it isn't quite my thing).

As for the MrSpeakers Ethers, it was based more off of what Tyll was saying and that it made it on his Wall of Fame. For the Oppo HA-1, it's probably because it's pretty, comes in black, and in general gets relatively decent reviews (even from Tyll). I'll admit it.
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There are nice speaker amps for well under $1k (and I wouldn't touch a HiFiMan amp with a ten foot pole). I've heard good things about the HE-6 being paired with this:

http://diyaudiostore.com/collections/kits/products/amp-camp-amp-kit

Fun fact. Audio note has an HE-6 amp. thumb.gif
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With the recommendation for speaker amps I have one BIG question: Just how do you control the volume? I don't want to be having to constantly mess around with windows system volume, as an example.

Speakers are a no go due to living in an old apartment building, so are something I'm not willing to look into at this time even if I were to get a really REALLY good deal on a pair of high end ones. Place is too small to be storing items for several years that only collect dust.

As for the Schiit Gungnir recommendation, would there be any benefit to also getting the Mjolnir 2 with it (with the "mixpack" of tubes and LISST to be able to try such things out), or would it not have enough power to run the HE-6's? I'm asking mainly due to two reasons - first being aesthetics (the two together look nice, and I'd be willing to have them in silver if I didn't have a choice. Also, they use white LEDs instead of blue ones (I'm light sensitive, and the blue LEDs used in a lot of hardware give me headaches almost immediately... that worsens as seconds go by)), and the second being my curiosity regarding tubes (with the fallback of being able to use the LYSST solid state stuff if it isn't quite my thing).

As for the MrSpeakers Ethers, it was based more off of what Tyll was saying and that it made it on his Wall of Fame. For the Oppo HA-1, it's probably because it's pretty, comes in black, and in general gets relatively decent reviews (even from Tyll). I'll admit it.

You get a outboard volume knob.

Most speaker amps are integrated and have a volume knob.
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Why is it so hard, to sell a practically unused hd800's... I kinda wanna to get my toes dipped on some ultrasone stuff, been playing around with a edition 10's
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Why is it so hard, to sell a practically unused hd800's... I kinda wanna to get my toes dipped on some ultrasone stuff, been playing around with a edition 10's

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