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post #3211 of 37796
So praise jah for the weekend cause that means I'm not having to house-sit at me mums anymore (was there all week).

It also means I get to spend some quality time with my new desktop amp.

I've only listened enough to know that it's miles beyond anything else I've listened too.

And I also think it's quite well designed/put together (if not a tad large!):

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Quite the long piece of gear to be sure.

Glad I went with the Big Flat Desk(tm) option way back.



Anyway ... I've already posted some prelim, early listen thoughts but will post a much more detailed bit of commentary after I burn it in for at least another two hundred hours.

The original owner said he only put about 100 hours on it so I figure it's got some leg stretching to do yet.

It's HUGELY affected by cable type. This is something that's just freaking me out as I've always been a cable skeptic.

But sure enough ... I've got four sets of cheapo cables (RCA digital series, two flavas of Monster, and some DIY cables of my roommates) and they all sound distinctly different. Some sharp and bothersome, some with a much wider soundstage, some muddy.

It's really quite freaky.

Funny thing ... just today I found this review of the Stello HP100 and was quite humored to read the following:

"The HP100 proved unusually sensitive to the cables used with it, both interconnects and power cords."



Again, I'll post more thoughts in a couple weeks ...
    
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post #3212 of 37796
I really hope they mentioned power cords as a joke.
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Quote:
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I really hope they mentioned power cords as a joke.
I'm not thinking joke.



I agree ... it's strange to me, but the more I read about high end gear, the more I find folks swearing by power cable quality and how it affects sound.

Check this: http://www.audioartcable.com/Product...U&Redirected=Y

I'm pretty sure that's bargain basement in so far as serious power cables are concerned.

But I'm certainly no expert.

I do know that the interconnect hugely impacts the sound on the Stello HP100.

My prelim tests using four different IC's has made a believer out of me.

And it's also made me want to invest in a good set of RCA interconnects ... but the problem becomes: what if you spend 100 to 200 bucks on a custom IC and find that it's too bright? Or too muddy? Or otherwise not appropriate?

I don't think cable companies have the same "money back gaurantee" that I so love about buying other hardware. But then again ... I really don't know.
    
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post #3214 of 37796
And then there are people here who have $700 power filters
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Yeah, I can definitely believe that interconnects make a difference, but power cables just make me go 'huh?'. I know the quality of the power matters, but isn't all the work done on the power supply end?

I'm still waiting for my stock HD650 cables to get here, then I can A/B it with the stock HD600 cables. Eventually I can get into some Zu's or whatever.
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Here... take the knife back.......
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And then there are people here who have $700 power filters
That I can agree with - heck, even the cheapie filtration built into my Isobars makes a noticeable drop in noise floor. However, I still remain skeptical that for all the generic wiring that a current passes through in order to get to a expensive power cord that that expensive cord could make any difference to the sound. (Unless of course there is a line conditioner between the component and the main power grid)
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One minor note Joel - for Grado that gain setting should probably be on low. The low impedance of Grado means that they do well with low gain and a high amount of current output.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aura View Post
One minor note Joel - for Grado that gain setting should probably be on low. The low impedance of Grado means that they do well with low gain and a high amount of current output.
@ Aura:

I agree and am aware of your comments meaning. In truth, both settings sound great.

But be it placebic or otherwise psychological ... I've listened to both extensively and found the high to sound a bit fuller with, literally (in my most nit picky of modes), zero percent more noise floor.

So I just left it at high (my psyche enjoys having the room on the volume dial for some reason); I'm sure it's purely psychological. (thanks for the word though, bro!).

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@ Cables issue:

At this point ...

Hearing how incredibly better this amp/DAC combo is compared to my previous setup.

After hearing how palpably different each of my four cheapo cables sounds as interconnects between my DAC and Stello amp ...

All I can say is I'm COMPLETELY open to new ideas and information.

Also, ...

I'm finding myself quite enthusiastic about spending money on interconnects.

But I'll most likely take some time to research before making a commitment.

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For the moment ...

The following, rather old (10 years old or so) DIY interconnects, which really belong to my roommate ... are much better than any of my own four cheapo interconnects (including a couple of "Monster" variants):

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My roommate claims they were cheaper as a DIY kit, ten years ago, than his/mine current price-bloated monster/RCA cables.

They sound much more spatious and smooth than my "RCA Digital High Performance" cables, which sound just too bright and edgy/painful ... and they sound more detailed and wide than the dull/muddy low end Monster cables I've also tried.

They are staying in my desktop rig for now ...

    
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@ Aura:

I agree and am aware of your comments meaning. In truth, both settings sound great.

But be it placebic or otherwise psychological ... I've listened to both extensively and found the high to sound a bit fuller with, literally (in my most nit picky of modes), zero percent more noise floor.

So I just left it at high (my psyche enjoys having the room on the volume dial for some reason); I'm sure it's purely psychological. (thanks for the word though, bro!).
Good stuff .

Once again proving that we ought to say to hell with common notions of what a headphone should be/must be paired and how it should be set up/configured. Ultimately, how we like it is what truly matters.

Now go buy a nice pair of Cardas Golden Reference RCA's for your rig .
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