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I was looking at buying both of them wink.gif
Good for my starting collection.

I dont care for isolation, i care for good sound.
I just never tryed closed cans worth over 50$.

Generally speaking open cans are going to have more soundstage and better mids/treble, while closed will have the lead in isolation and bass. My personal opinion is you want to go with open headphones unless you NEED isolation or dat bass yo.

One odd exception are the K550s which, although closed, have a soundstage that rivals quite a few open cans out there.
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I like the M50X. Very good can, and especially so at the $100 mark.
 
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I am actually considering refusing my stax upon delivery so I get a full refund. I am not certain yet what I am going to do, besides the risk of shock I was reading about, and since I live in Indiana (90%+ humidity everyday, which STAX manual even says be careful with 90+ humidity) and I can't buy a dehumidifier because I have dry eye disease and will just make everything blurry for me (winter is hell enough already as it is).

Also, the dust issue... I would have to box them up after every time I use them or buy a case for them because my house is dusty, really dusty... I clean my room, wash sheets, sweep, and dust a lot... but it just isn't enough with 4 people and pets in the house. I constantly have to clean out my PC of dust. So yeah, having to care for cans like a baby is not exactly ideal for me just yet, until I get my own apartment someday.

Think I am going to keep my T90s, Pioneers, Philips, HD 681 EVO's, and I have some T20rp coming in which is supposed to have deeper bass than the T50rp, if it does I am going to mail back to the T50rp and the T20rp will be my bass cans, but I am hesitant to even keep my T90s or my planar magnetics, EMF radiation is real, see below.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/473894/health-issues-associated-with-prolonged-headphones-use-due-to-emf-pollution

see post number 3 ^ about the beyer t1's

Dude. You are gonna be fine. I promise you.

And no, you would not have to box them up every time. Just get a headphone stand. You are gonna probably want one no matter what headphones you get.

Then all you gotta do is chuck the plastic cover it comes with over the top of them.






I have much older stax that have seen far worse and they still work fine. Its not like stax headphones are super fragile. They just require you to be a little mindful about how you treat your headphones.

Just don't be stupid. Give them a little respect and I promise you that you will enjoy your headphones for a very long time.
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@tjj thanks I needed that confidence booster

@farih m50x is great at bass and lets have fun and dance type music, but the x2 is pretty damn nice, the soundstage/accuracy is out of this world. i could pinpoint people walks in FPS games so accurately with the x2's... ^^
    
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Just don't be stupid. Give them a little respect and I promise you that you will enjoy your headphones for a very long time.

This. Headphones are pretty long lasting if you take care of them, there are hundreds of examples from the '70s and '80s that are still going strong because the owners didn't toss them around and kept 'em clean.

Granted, a number of those headphones were built like tanks and weighed as much as a small car, but still.
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"Not available for the Netherlands"

Newegg being a racist bastard !
Asking price for the X2 was 150,-
So its ok to go up to his asking price ?

Also found a ATH-M50X Limited Edition for 130,-
Would that be up my street ? dont think i ever tryed a 50$+ closed can lol.

I love my M50X's, but they do have a few things to keep in mind. They are known for having a v-shape profile to their sound, or in other words they have accentuated bass and highs. This makes them great for a lot of electronic styles of music, but they definitely aren't hd 600's.

I absolutely love my pair though, even if I occasionally have to fight my husband to get them back (not as often now that he has his HD 600's) - they're my go to pair when I want to enjoy my music with just a bit more bass ^_^

The limited editions are extra icing on the cake - I would have owned a pair but I just couldn't wait the two weeks for a pair to come in so I got black instead.
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I love my M50X's, but they do have a few things to keep in mind. They are known for having a v-shape profile to their sound, or in other words they have accentuated bass and highs. This makes them great for a lot of electronic styles of music, but they definitely aren't hd 600's.

I absolutely love my pair though, even if I occasionally have to fight my husband to get them back (not as often now that he has his HD 600's) - they're my go to pair when I want to enjoy my music with just a bit more bass ^_^

The limited editions are extra icing on the cake - I would have owned a pair but I just couldn't wait the two weeks for a pair to come in so I got black instead.

Also a side note for the M50x's they literally have 0 amount of sound stage, so don't even dream of gaming with them, but you will have X2's for gaming which are just the opposite, soundstage gods. I actually refunded my M50x's a long time ago, got them for $99 new, just didn't feel lively to me, I like a little sound stage personally. My monoprice 8323's have decent bass, but decent sound stage too, for $15 but they are my fav budget bass cans.
    
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Went to the Audio store today because I didn't want to wait until Thursday haha. I listened to the Audeze EL-18, AudioQuest Nighthawk, and the HD650's. I also listened to the Audeze LC2's and HD800s for giggles although way out of my price range.

The EL-18 lower range sounded awful to me, all over the place and not very consistent, so then I went to the Nighthawk, which had much better bass in my opinion but the higher frequencies seem to have fallen off to me which is unfortunate because I like to listen to classical music fairly often actually. Then to the HD650's, the base wasn't as deep as it was on the Nighthawk but it hit those higher range frequencies a lot better. I can see now why you guys were saying that it is a pretty well rounded set of cans. I actually found the HD800s to be uncomfortable on the stock ear pieces, I am sure that normally you would replace them but the stock HD650s were much better and didn't mess with my glasses almost at all. I think for the $325 the HD650s will be my first pair of hi-fi headphones!

I tried out the 2 Amp/DAC that the gentlemen said would go well. Once of them was the NAD-D1050 which sounded a bit more natural and offered some better bass. Then I also tried out the Chord Mojo in which he said would give the better DAC and beat any Schiit stack easily. Claimed that going with a combo isn't necessarily better or worse than going with 2 separate units, DAC & Amp. The gentlemen also recommended going with a solid state amp as tube amps generally just introduce noise into the signal. Is there any truth to those two comments? Are either of those ones that he recommended good combinations for the DAC/Amp? Was already considering a Schiit stack(Bifrost+A2) or the Jolida Glass FX tube dac III.
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What did you think of the LCD-2?
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Went to the Audio store today because I didn't want to wait until Thursday haha. I listened to the Audeze EL-18, AudioQuest Nighthawk, and the HD650's. I also listened to the Audeze LC2's and HD800s for giggles although way out of my price range.

The EL-18 lower range sounded awful to me, all over the place and not very consistent, so then I went to the Nighthawk, which had much better bass in my opinion but the higher frequencies seem to have fallen off to me which is unfortunate because I like to listen to classical music fairly often actually. Then to the HD650's, the base wasn't as deep as it was on the Nighthawk but it hit those higher range frequencies a lot better. I can see now why you guys were saying that it is a pretty well rounded set of cans. I actually found the HD800s to be uncomfortable on the stock ear pieces, I am sure that normally you would replace them but the stock HD650s were much better and didn't mess with my glasses almost at all. I think for the $325 the HD650s will be my first pair of hi-fi headphones!

I tried out the 2 Amp/DAC that the gentlemen said would go well. Once of them was the NAD-D1050 which sounded a bit more natural and offered some better bass. Then I also tried out the Chord Mojo in which he said would give the better DAC and beat any Schiit stack easily. Claimed that going with a combo isn't necessarily better or worse than going with 2 separate units, DAC & Amp. The gentlemen also recommended going with a solid state amp as tube amps generally just introduce noise into the signal. Is there any truth to those two comments? Are either of those ones that he recommended good combinations for the DAC/Amp? Was already considering a Schiit stack(Bifrost+A2) or the Jolida Glass FX tube dac III.

Glad to hear you found something you like! However, if you weren't 'sold' by the HD650, don't think that means you have to settle tongue.gif. Did you have the chance to try the HD600 as well?

As for the tubes part....I think Tjj may come in here and rant for about half a page about how stupid that statement is tongue.gif. Of course it introduces noise into the signal...I mean that's literally what tube amps are made to do. However, Sennheiser HD600 and HD650 + tube amps have always been a popular choice for as many years as I've known anything about headphones. I generally prefer solid state amps with the HD650 because it's already a warmer headphone, but I feel the complete opposite about the HD600.

And unfortunately, I know nothing about those two amps that were mentioned, but in the end, remember those guys are salesmen. The great part about Schiit stuff is you get a 15 day no-questions-asked return policy in the event that you don't like them. To me it sounds like that dealer loses a lot of money to Schiit as one, they're not authorized to sell them, and two, people generally like it and are recommended it over the stuff they carry.
 
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