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I started with the A7X but after about 6 months i traded them in for A5X's
The A5X is alot more balanced IMO.

The mid/highs on these speakers is like OH MY GOD !!!! they give me ....... nvm, cant say that on OCN.

Price seems high but how much have you paid for a good headphone and amp ? rolleyes.gif

Btw, they can go loud but they wont penatrate into your neighbours home.
My neighboors never complained since i got them, they did complain when i still had my P.A system in a bedroom smile.gif

Sadly P.A system is in the shed now frown.gif

The a5x's do seem tempting, but we'll see. For now I'll be picking up some yorkville ysm5's because they're only $390ish CAD a pair. A5x's are still around $1550 CAD or so, and local store didn't have a set out to try. But I have had my heart set on the a7x's for some time - kind of wishing I had picked up a pair two years ago when they were only $1300 CAD a pair (distributor jacked the prices up a year and a half ago) but such is life.

As for noise, trust me, any decent set of speakers will easily be heard by my neighbours, as I live in a 55 year old building for the time being, and unfortunately some of the renovators that have been through the building (like the last ones that came and redid the bathroom of my next door neighbour) couldn't quite understand why they should leave the insulation in the walls.... It's just a case of selecting speakers that sound good, without being too boomy (so while I'd love to mix my sets with krk's because of obvious reasons (they're pretty much number one with DJ's for a specific reason, and it isn't sound quality, it's the focus on bass and highs, which are what you tend to use for cues when mixing anyways), djing will be with headphones only until we get a horse because when I get going, volume is one of my last concerns),and that neighbours won't mind if they hear it a bit - just don't watch any anime with lots of killing and screaming in it and I'd be fine tongue.gif

Either way, hopefully in a few weeks I'll have a pair of Yorkville YSM5's resting on a pair of IsoAcoustics 130's, and hubby will have a pair too ^_^
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Thanks for advice, I was looking at these Bose, also I like Senheiser Momentum Wireless. The question is latnecy in games, especially competitive multiplayer ones. Plus I heard about latnecy issues while watching movies.

Maby there is some solution with dongles or something. I also thougt about RF Senheiser headphones, but again they are not very universal, because you have to connect station to one device.
Is there any particular reason why you can't go wired?
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The a5x's do seem tempting, but we'll see. For now I'll be picking up some yorkville ysm5's because they're only $390ish CAD a pair. A5x's are still around $1550 CAD or so, and local store didn't have a set out to try. But I have had my heart set on the a7x's for some time - kind of wishing I had picked up a pair two years ago when they were only $1300 CAD a pair (distributor jacked the prices up a year and a half ago) but such is life.

As for noise, trust me, any decent set of speakers will easily be heard by my neighbours, as I live in a 55 year old building for the time being, and unfortunately some of the renovators that have been through the building (like the last ones that came and redid the bathroom of my next door neighbour) couldn't quite understand why they should leave the insulation in the walls.... It's just a case of selecting speakers that sound good, without being too boomy (so while I'd love to mix my sets with krk's because of obvious reasons (they're pretty much number one with DJ's for a specific reason, and it isn't sound quality, it's the focus on bass and highs, which are what you tend to use for cues when mixing anyways), djing will be with headphones only until we get a horse because when I get going, volume is one of my last concerns),and that neighbours won't mind if they hear it a bit - just don't watch any anime with lots of killing and screaming in it and I'd be fine tongue.gif

Either way, hopefully in a few weeks I'll have a pair of Yorkville YSM5's resting on a pair of IsoAcoustics 130's, and hubby will have a pair too ^_^

I did some Dj'ing on systems allthough on that genre of music they would call me a "Selectah" lol
On systems i use closed headphones and attleast 2 15inch full range monitors.
Systems i played on useally were massive smile.gif
Sometimes so big i had to use my own system just for monitoring lol. (allthough mixing gets a bit tricky then)

At home i am fine though with the Adams and headphones but nothing really beats "Dj'ing" on a system.
Done radio broadcasts from home with many listeners but doesnt beat even a small live audience in front of a system.

Since you mentioned KRK for a genre i reckon that genre is EDM ?
The Adams are really flat but the A7X do also pack a punch good for EDM i reckon, the A5X have less of a punch but are more balanced.

Other cheaper speakers i like are the:
-Alesis M1 520 Active (non usb) (very cheap, have a hiss but once music plays really sound good for the money)
-KRK VXT 4 (tiny but a lovely balanced sound)
-Yamaha HS5 (can be found very cheap)
-Adam F5 (come really close to A5X sound for a fraction of the price)

I like Genelecs to but again pricey frown.gif

Sadly i dont know the Yorkville YSM5.....
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I did some Dj'ing on systems allthough on that genre of music they would call me a "Selectah" lol
On systems i use closed headphones and attleast 2 15inch full range monitors.
Systems i played on useally were massive smile.gif
Sometimes so big i had to use my own system just for monitoring lol. (allthough mixing gets a bit tricky then)

At home i am fine though with the Adams and headphones but nothing really beats "Dj'ing" on a system.
Done radio broadcasts from home with many listeners but doesnt beat even a small live audience in front of a system.

Since you mentioned KRK for a genre i reckon that genre is EDM ?
The Adams are really flat but the A7X do also pack a punch good for EDM i reckon, the A5X have less of a punch but are more balanced.

Other cheaper speakers i like are the:
-Alesis M1 520 Active (non usb) (very cheap, have a hiss but once music plays really sound good for the money)
-KRK VXT 4 (tiny but a lovely balanced sound)
-Yamaha HS5 (can be found very cheap)
-Adam F5 (come really close to A5X sound for a fraction of the price)

I like Genelecs to but again pricey frown.gif

Sadly i dont know the Yorkville YSM5.....

I don't get the Selektah reference >.>;;;

I've always used headphones when mixing, but I do know how advantageous mixing with monitors can be (soooo much easier to quickly swap between live feed and cue, as an example). Sure would make my habit of occasionally hot cueueing a lot more apparent to me >.>;;;;;;;;; Still can't believe one time I was doing that for like 25 seconds, and even worse it happened when I got that "nope, this track won't do" *grabs another record* thing happening (and then something like six records later i finally nodded and decided on the nexttrack)

While I've only ever played out once (and it was for a small room at a sci-fi conference in Calgary, but with our $50 CAD in rentals we totally trounced a "professional" mobile djing team that had $40k in equipment - at least according to the audience, and the lineup of people at the door to the small room!), I definitely have to agree that the instant feedback from an audience is just so much more appealing than any form of radio (of which I've had a reasonable amount of experience over the years with online radio of various forms).

...The KRK's... They bring certain things to live with aggrotech/Harsh EBM, DnB, and hardstyle, but the lack of mids makes it so I couldn't use them for anything other than mixing with, and at that point I'd rather just stick to the Yorkvilles I'm getting eventually and then when I upgrade to Adams.... Oh look, Yorkville speakers are now djing ones tongue.gif

Basically, the Yorkville YSM5's (A Canadian brand, of all things) have a reasonably decent quality to them for me, and also "Suffer" from "good enough until I get the Adams I want" syndrome tongue.gif Aka out of all the monitors I've listened to so far, they're the ones I like the most. The Yamaha HS5's are nice, and excel at female vocals, but there just seems to be something about them in comparison to the Yorkville's that I don't like... I suspect it's how the Yamahas are fairly light on bass.
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I don't get the Selektah reference >.>;;;

I've always used headphones when mixing, but I do know how advantageous mixing with monitors can be (soooo much easier to quickly swap between live feed and cue, as an example). Sure would make my habit of occasionally hot cueueing a lot more apparent to me >.>;;;;;;;;; Still can't believe one time I was doing that for like 25 seconds, and even worse it happened when I got that "nope, this track won't do" *grabs another record* thing happening (and then something like six records later i finally nodded and decided on the nexttrack)

While I've only ever played out once (and it was for a small room at a sci-fi conference in Calgary, but with our $50 CAD in rentals we totally trounced a "professional" mobile djing team that had $40k in equipment - at least according to the audience, and the lineup of people at the door to the small room!), I definitely have to agree that the instant feedback from an audience is just so much more appealing than any form of radio (of which I've had a reasonable amount of experience over the years with online radio of various forms).

...The KRK's... They bring certain things to live with aggrotech/Harsh EBM, DnB, and hardstyle, but the lack of mids makes it so I couldn't use them for anything other than mixing with, and at that point I'd rather just stick to the Yorkvilles I'm getting eventually and then when I upgrade to Adams.... Oh look, Yorkville speakers are now djing ones tongue.gif

Basically, the Yorkville YSM5's (A Canadian brand, of all things) have a reasonably decent quality to them for me, and also "Suffer" from "good enough until I get the Adams I want" syndrome tongue.gif Aka out of all the monitors I've listened to so far, they're the ones I like the most. The Yamaha HS5's are nice, and excel at female vocals, but there just seems to be something about them in comparison to the Yorkville's that I don't like... I suspect it's how the Yamahas are fairly light on bass.

If i play (lets not call it dj'ing in my case) i play roots reggae and rocksteady. (not even close to Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Burning Spear and such like reggae)
Very old, very bassy.... you would think EDM, Hardstyle has more bass but reggae on a system just cant be beaten IMO.
My friends do "DJ" and play mostly Tekno frown.gif

On the old original reggae sound systems you had actual DJ's mixing, freestyling and dubbing reggae and you have people that just know how to pick a good tune and stitch a few together.. we call them selectah's smile.gif

On a system i mix/pre-select, line up records etc. with headphones but effects and sound leveling you do with monitors.
To use kill switches and so properly you need monitors IMO because you play them realltime on the audience, you need to be hearing what the audience is hearing to and adjust to it.

HS5's dont have everything you want in a speaker sadly but yeah the higher vocals are great, then again there not that expensive.
Hope you will enjoy your new Yorkville's thumb.gif
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Good information thank you. Do you have a recommendation for a Jolida DAC and an Amp that would pair well with the HD650?
Would you say the best Combination would be the Glass FX Tube DAC III / Headphone Amp that would run ~$1000 total. Or just swing for the DAC + a schiit magni 2 coming out to ~650?

http://www.divertech.com/aslmgheaddt.html

That is the best amp that I know of that costs less than 1200 bucks.

I would either tell you to buy that amp, or buy the schiit magni with the intention to upgrade to the antique amp.
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The Schiit Gungnir Multibit is the best dac you can get for less than 1K. It sounds better than a lot of dacs that cost more than 10 grand.
FTFY

Re: SS vs. tube, good example is the O2 amp (SS, linear, sounds bad) vs. EC Balancing Act (tube, euphonic) vs. EC Studio (tube, linear). EC Black Widow also throws a wrench in there since it's solid state but euphonic.
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I really wish the free markets would buy a stax 009, dismantle it, replicate it and mass produce it and sell it to everyone for 300 bucks or something, surely they could tweak a few things to make it not copyright issue.... gods why arent the free markets working... why...
If it could be done it would have been by now. If you look on taobao there are tons of copycat Stax amps, one of which I believe @boredgunner has.

Chinese companies have attempted electrostatics before, but with poor results. The HE Audio Jade was inspired by the original Sennheiser Orpheus and had potentially good sound but very poor QC and build quality. The recent Kingsound electrostatic headphones have so-so build quality but sound mediocre.

Funnily enough it may be easier and cheaper to DIY your own electrostatics than it is for a company to mass-manufacture consistently good-sounding, high-quality ones.
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FTFY

Re: SS vs. tube, good example is the O2 amp (SS, linear, sounds bad) vs. EC Balancing Act (tube, euphonic) vs. EC Studio (tube, linear). EC Black Widow also throws a wrench in there since it's solid state but euphonic.
If it could be done it would have been by now. If you look on taobao there are tons of copycat Stax amps, one of which I believe @boredgunner has.

Chinese companies have attempted electrostatics before, but with poor results. The HE Audio Jade was inspired by the original Sennheiser Orpheus and had potentially good sound but very poor QC and build quality. The recent Kingsound electrostatic headphones have so-so build quality but sound mediocre.

Funnily enough it may be easier and cheaper to DIY your own electrostatics than it is for a company to mass-manufacture consistently good-sounding, high-quality ones.

Gungnir Multibit is typically over $1k, although I'm sure it's possible to find one for less maybe on the second hand market.

And indeed I do have a China clone amp. My advice? Stay away from that sort of thing.
 
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FTFY

Re: SS vs. tube, good example is the O2 amp (SS, linear, sounds bad) vs. EC Balancing Act (tube, euphonic) vs. EC Studio (tube, linear). EC Black Widow also throws a wrench in there since it's solid state but euphonic.
If it could be done it would have been by now. If you look on taobao there are tons of copycat Stax amps, one of which I believe @boredgunner has.

Chinese companies have attempted electrostatics before, but with poor results. The HE Audio Jade was inspired by the original Sennheiser Orpheus and had potentially good sound but very poor QC and build quality. The recent Kingsound electrostatic headphones have so-so build quality but sound mediocre.

Funnily enough it may be easier and cheaper to DIY your own electrostatics than it is for a company to mass-manufacture consistently good-sounding, high-quality ones.

The schiit gungnir is not as good as you think.


Just hold tight. I will be there soon enough with my new dac in tow. thumb.gif
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