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Was it boredgunner who was looking for a portable amp? Massdrop has a drop going right now he might be interested in:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/firestone-fireye-hdb

Seems to be a pretty solid little box from what I can dig up about it.

Thanks. I wasn't planning on buying now but that's pretty cheap. Will research for sure.
 
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SR-307, SR-407 and SR-507 have the same transducer with minor differences in the housing, cable and earpads.

SR-207 uses different diaphragms but many (including experienced older gentlemen) seem to prefer it over the higher Lambda models for its smoother sound. The other X07 ear speakers are brighter than the previous SR-X0X series e.g. SR-404 and also have a bit of a midbass hump.

.............yyyyyyyyyyeah but its not that simple.

This is kind of where the rabbit hole starts to go a bit deep with stax. The biggest thing that effects sound with electrostatic headphones is the tension on the mylar. Depending on how the housing is constructed and how the transducer is braced, you can put more or less tension and force on the mylar.

There is also a lot of debate as to whether or not the transducers are actually the same to begin with. A lot of people do driver swaps and claim they get a completely different sound. You and I both know that there are 1000000 different ways a driver swap could sound different, so their claims are most likely nonsense. However I know stax and how crazy they are. I could EASILY see them temperature treating different transducers or changing the wiring.

Anyways.

The 207s are using a new type of bracing that uses a resin which can give more tension on the mylar. While this does give you better bass, it also changes the characteristics of the sound signature.

Sounds that used to make a boom will sound more like a pop. So yes, there is more bass, but its not what I would call good bass.

The one thing I am curious about though is how that signature would change with a different voltage bias. IDK.

I really need to stop obsessing over design theory and just build a pair of my own transducers.
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AFAIK the complete transducer assembly (including membrane and stators) was evaluated to be identical across the SR-307 to the SR-507, so differences in sound are probably more attributable to minor changes in the baffle, cable properties (e.g. capacitance) and the qualities of the earpads and consequent seal to the head.

I don't believe people have played around too much with swaps on the newer models as there hasn't really been a reason to and they're pretty expensive.
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AFAIK the complete transducer assembly (including membrane and stators) was evaluated to be identical across the SR-307 to the SR-507, so differences in sound are probably more attributable to minor changes in the baffle, cable properties (e.g. capacitance) and the qualities of the earpads and consequent seal to the head.

I don't believe people have played around too much with swaps on the newer models as there hasn't really been a reason to and they're pretty expensive.

There is actually one guy I know of who has stax sigmas who probably swapped out the drivers with the new models. I think I will see what he is up to these days lol biggrin.gif
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Eh. That is a vastly more complex question than you think it is.

The best way I could answer that is by asking you what you listen to.

Do you listen to classical and jazz? If so, then all stax headphones are good and you only get progressively better as you move up the line.

Do you listen to classic rock? Well then you should probably start off with a 300 series at least and should probably consider going to the 400 series.

Do you listen to everything the music world has to offer? Well then you probably want to at least get some 507s and mod them or the 404les.

Do you want an end game headphone, well then you want the sr-007 or leave stax all together and get the sennheiser HE-60.

Hmmm, i like (modern)classical, & film/game music, use a DT990 for this music now
I like old american guitar music like Neil Young, Bob Dylan, ZZ Top etc etc, use a SR80E and the DT990 for this music.
I like very old roots reggae - rocksteady on vinyl but i basicly given up finding a good headphone for that, use a Philips SHL3300 for that atm.
I game with headphones on to and use a HD558 for that.

I was hoping to buy a new headphone around 500,- euro to go with my new amp.
I could also sell this amp again, i reckon i can get 500,- for it easely.
So that make's it 1000,- together.... Doest seem enough for nice electrostats does it ?
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I can wholeheartedly recommend the Stax SRS2170. It will be the best thing you've ever heard. Seriously, drop everything and buy them. Or wait until the SRS3100 becomes available. Don't let the looks put you off !
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Would this be a good start with Stax ?

http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/audio-tv-en-foto/koptelefoons-en-headsets/m1059354344-stax-sr5-n-gold-met-srd-x-versterker.html?c=be2da871b0d84f75c3056cc6db858f31&previousPage=lr&pos=1

I am affraid to just blindly buy a 899,- or 1449,- euro set while never tryed one.
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Hmmm, i like (modern)classical, & film/game music, use a DT990 for this music now
I like old american guitar music like Neil Young, Bob Dylan, ZZ Top etc etc, use a SR80E and the DT990 for this music.
I like very old roots reggae - rocksteady on vinyl but i basicly given up finding a good headphone for that, use a Philips SHL3300 for that atm.
I game with headphones on to and use a HD558 for that.

I was hoping to buy a new headphone around 500,- euro to go with my new amp.
I could also sell this amp again, i reckon i can get 500,- for it easely.
So that make's it 1000,- together.... Doest seem enough for nice electrostats does it ?

Eh. Its possible. It will just take a considerable amount of digging around.

Kuboten has some 404les for less than 600 USD.

Then it would be a matter of hunting down something like a 353x.
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I can wholeheartedly recommend the Stax SRS2170. It will be the best thing you've ever heard. Seriously, drop everything and buy them. Or wait until the SRS3100 becomes available. Don't let the looks put you off !

Someone wake me up when the 4000 series comes out. Then I will jump on board.
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Picked up a set of T50RP Mk3 at a local Guitar Center today after a short audition. I think they will make a great work headphone from what I've heard. Can't wait to see how they sound via my home setup!
 
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