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Looking to trade my DT990s for some DT770s or something similar closed back in the UK. What other cans should I consider? I want a pair that I can use on my silent London train commutes tongue.gif
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Currently testing out the T50RP with Shure 840 pads. Not sure I can feel a huge difference, but the pads are nice and I believe I can find a use for them should I prefer the stock pads. The driver is further away from my ear, so the peaky upper mids are tamed just enough for me. Will put them to use more at work tonight.
 
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Looking to trade my DT990s for some DT770s or something similar closed back in the UK. What other cans should I consider? I want a pair that I can use on my silent London train commutes tongue.gif

monoprice 8323. best 15 quid you will ever spend. and if you break them on train by accident, meh who cares, cause they 15 quid. they super closed tight seal in sound, great little cans for the price.

@whitewulfe yeah I admit I like EDM stuff, lol but its not just the bass the t20rp gets right, they get everything right imo. better imaging than the shp-9500 even (which is said to have as good imaging as HD600 from from what I hear)

edit: @whitewulfe I forgot to mention I compared them side by side with shp-9500, and my pioneer se-a1000 and they have better imaging then both. soundstage is king on my pioneer tho. fun factor though, t20rp, it gets a lot of stuff right as long as you get earpads that seal. stock aren't too bad either honestly. i preder it over t50rp personally

@pez agreed the t50rp has that borderline too high treble sometimes, t20rp doesn't have this issue, at least not with the earpads I am using and the pleather pads that seal real well I use as well.

edit 2: @ pez your dragonfly DAC you use, imo, when I tried Dragonfly it made all my cans much too sibilant in the high end, when you switch to Fiio K1 or SMSL M6 I noticed a decent amount of warming to the high end. So it might just be your Dragonfly.
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$3,500
Interesting amp choice. Would you say the Black Widow is one of the best solid state amps around? I find the HD 800 to be incredibly boring on most solid state amps, but I don't know if that would apply to the HD 800S. For this reason, and keeping to the $3k limit and Gungnir Multibit, I'd look into something from Antique Sound Labs or the La Figaro 339C or its successor.

La figaro's are beautiful amps but boy do they ever get toastyy! devil.gif at least some of the ones I saw did when I was looking at them.
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monoprice 8323. best 15 quid you will ever spend. and if you break them on train by accident, meh who cares, cause they 15 quid. they super closed tight seal in sound, great little cans for the price.

@whitewulfe yeah I admit I like EDM stuff, lol but its not just the bass the t20rp gets right, they get everything right imo. better imaging than the shp-9500 even (which is said to have as good imaging as HD600 from from what I hear)

edit: @whitewulfe I forgot to mention I compared them side by side with shp-9500, and my pioneer se-a1000 and they have better imaging then both. soundstage is king on my pioneer tho. fun factor though, t20rp, it gets a lot of stuff right as long as you get earpads that seal. stock aren't too bad either honestly. i preder it over t50rp personally

@pez agreed the t50rp has that borderline too high treble sometimes, t20rp doesn't have this issue, at least not with the earpads I am using and the pleather pads that seal real well I use as well.

edit 2: @ pez your dragonfly DAC you use, imo, when I tried Dragonfly it made all my cans much too sibilant in the high end, when you switch to Fiio K1 or SMSL M6 I noticed a decent amount of warming to the high end. So it might just be your Dragonfly.

I don't user the Dragonfly on my main setup. That's only for my MacBook Air. Main setup is still the same as listed in the sig; albeit with the headphones being the part that changes.
 
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@whitewulfe yeah I admit I like EDM stuff, lol but its not just the bass the t20rp gets right, they get everything right imo. better imaging than the shp-9500 even (which is said to have as good imaging as HD600 from from what I hear)

edit: @whitewulfe I forgot to mention I compared them side by side with shp-9500, and my pioneer se-a1000 and they have better imaging then both. soundstage is king on my pioneer tho. fun factor though, t20rp, it gets a lot of stuff right as long as you get earpads that seal. stock aren't too bad either honestly. i preder it over t50rp personally

With the HD 600's, I personally found what you mentioned to be somewhat of a flaw they had... Sure, their soundstage was rather lovely for things like rock and metal, but the instant you queue up any kind of gabber, aggrotech, or Harsh EBM it just..... I'd almost argue tears the music apart instead of complimenting it. Doesn't help that the HD 600's didn't really as have much of a thump to them either, especially in comparison to my K712's tongue.gif ...Sure, it could potentially be argued I didn't give them enough time (although several hours a day for three weeks would give enough time for an opinion I figure), or that I didn't try them with other gear, but at the same time I'm not going to go on a quest for different gear just to try and find a particular pair of headphones more agreeable.

Either way, when I get a chance, since they can probably be heard locally, I'll look into the T50rp's at some point.
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With the HD 600's, I personally found what you mentioned to be somewhat of a flaw they had... Sure, their soundstage was rather lovely for things like rock and metal, but the instant you queue up any kind of gabber, aggrotech, or Harsh EBM it just..... I'd almost argue tears the music apart instead of complimenting it. Doesn't help that the HD 600's didn't really as have much of a thump to them either, especially in comparison to my K712's tongue.gif ...Sure, it could potentially be argued I didn't give them enough time (although several hours a day for three weeks would give enough time for an opinion I figure), or that I didn't try them with other gear, but at the same time I'm not going to go on a quest for different gear just to try and find a particular pair of headphones more agreeable.

Either way, when I get a chance, since they can probably be heard locally, I'll look into the T50rp's at some point.

Yeah, it's just not you. Without a good tube amp, they sound pretty lackluster in the bass department. It's the main reason I love the HD650 over the HD600.

The T50RP are nice. They are punchy and they can extend pretty low, but still lack some impact. However, as everything is generally not over-emphasized, it doesn't sound like a crazy drop-off that just sounds lifeless. I'd say they're a very competitive option to the M50. M50 I believe have a stronger bass, but lack the emotion in the mids that the Fostex give. Sound stage is definitely better on the Fostex.
 
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monoprice 8323. best 15 quid you will ever spend. and if you break them on train by accident, meh who cares, cause they 15 quid. they super closed tight seal in sound, great little cans for the price.
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I'm not sure where you're finding them for £15, I can't seem to find them in the UK for less than around £40
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Yeah, it's just not you. Without a good tube amp, they sound pretty lackluster in the bass department. It's the main reason I love the HD650 over the HD600.

The T50RP are nice. They are punchy and they can extend pretty low, but still lack some impact. However, as everything is generally not over-emphasized, it doesn't sound like a crazy drop-off that just sounds lifeless. I'd say they're a very competitive option to the M50. M50 I believe have a stronger bass, but lack the emotion in the mids that the Fostex give. Sound stage is definitely better on the Fostex.

By good I'm guessing you're inferring something around the Schiit Lyr 2 price range? For what looks like $379 CAD more (I think it said $708 CAD overall) than the Asgard 2 ($329 CAD) I can get the Lyr 2 with tubes and a pair of lisst inserts.. Biggest question is if I'd notice the change enough to want to steal the HD 600's back from hubby or not... Or if I'd have a preference between the Lyr 2 and Asgard 2.

As for more emotion and a better soundstage, I suspect I'd gladly take such for a slight loss in bass, especially since the pricing of the t50rp's are usually right around the same pricing as the M50X's out here ($179 CAD seems to be the going rate). Play my cards right and I could also pick up a pair when I get our studio monitors...

Biggest question is if an o2 can give them enough power to get a good impression.
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By good I'm guessing you're inferring something around the Schiit Lyr 2 price range? For what looks like $379 CAD more (I think it said $708 CAD overall) than the Asgard 2 ($329 CAD) I can get the Lyr 2 with tubes and a pair of lisst inserts.. Biggest question is if I'd notice the change enough to want to steal the HD 600's back from hubby or not... Or if I'd have a preference between the Lyr 2 and Asgard 2.

As for more emotion and a better soundstage, I suspect I'd gladly take such for a slight loss in bass, especially since the pricing of the t50rp's are usually right around the same pricing as the M50X's out here ($179 CAD seems to be the going rate). Play my cards right and I could also pick up a pair when I get our studio monitors...

Biggest question is if an o2 can give them enough power to get a good impression.

Well to put in perspective, I had the HD600 with my Asgard 2 and while it sounded good, it sounded nothing like they did on Tjj's self-built amp. Not quite sure what it cost him to build that redface.gif. That Antique Sound Labs amp that he mentions quite a bit is probably a good option (someone here; philly-something? has one and really hasn't returned since, so that may be a good sign tongue.gif).

I've considered a Lyr 2 a couple times (I believe Silvrr is selling one, but no idea what and where shipping will be), but I'm still holding off. I actually want to get a O2/ODAC combo for work. That or I'd end up taking my Asgard 2 to work after getting a Lyr 2 redface.gif.
 
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