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Thanks to @boredgunner discussing surround sound and the old days of PC gaming sound I've been trying to find alternative ways to reimplement X-Fi quality sound without needing to find a PCI-E sound card and a DAC with optical input.

Has anyone tried the Creative X-Fi MB3 software?
http://software.store.creative.com/p/software/sound-blaster-x-fi-mb3

Wondering if its a better sounding replacement to Razer Surround?

The MB3 software requires you to have a device which can be set to 5.1/7.1 in windows(they must have had onboard sound in mind), and since the e10k can't do that, this software would be kind of useless.
No 5.1/7.1 in windows = no virtual "Surround" in games.

Or to put it different: You would need to use the onboard sound, to be able to get virtual surround from MB3.
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Ok, cool smile.gif. I'll look through some pics online and in reviews to check it out thumb.gif. And I've seen the pillows before, but now I'll have to be on the look out tongue.gif. Does it have an official name? Other than 'mini pillow'? tongue.gif


No clue if it has a different name. I will get back to you in 2 weeks when she is back and has some free time. Maybe she makes a second one and I ship it to you. thumb.gif
 
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The MB3 software requires you to have a device which can be set to 5.1/7.1 in windows(they must have had onboard sound in mind), and since the e10k can't do that, this software would be kind of useless.
No 5.1/7.1 in windows = no virtual "Surround" in games.

Or to put it different: You would need to use the onboard sound, to be able to get virtual surround from MB3.

Damn, i was hoping it would function the same way that Razer Surround functions where Razer Surround appears as a usable audio output device in the OS and games and then pipes the modified audio to another device (eg E10K).

Edit: surely MB3 would have to function in a similar fashion if it is to trick games to declaring itself as a hardware accelerated EAX5 soundcard?
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Edit: surely MB3 would have to function in a similar fashion if it is to trick games to declaring itself as a hardware accelerated EAX5 soundcard?

Yes, but still you can only set this virtual device to whatever the device you choosen to run it on is capable of.

But mentioning eax5: MB3 can AFAIK do proper virtual surround in OpenAL games even on stereo output devices, just that only old games have OpenAL(or even EAX5).
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Originally Posted by rathborne View Post

Thanks to @boredgunner discussing surround sound and the old days of PC gaming sound I've been trying to find alternative ways to reimplement X-Fi quality sound without needing to find a PCI-E sound card and a DAC with optical input.

Has anyone tried the Creative X-Fi MB3 software?

http://software.store.creative.com/p/software/sound-blaster-x-fi-mb3

Wondering if its a better sounding replacement to Razer Surround?
I'd also like to hear if anyone has used this. This is exactly what I want if I can use it for EAX support with everything else off. When I bought my Xonar I thought I was getting full support through GX, instead I got the broken mess that it is tongue.gif.
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Yes, but still you can only set this virtual device to whatever the device you choosen to run it on is capable of.

But mentioning eax5: MB3 can AFAIK do proper virtual surround in OpenAL games even on stereo output devices, just that only old games have OpenAL(or even EAX5).

You don't even need a software suite like that to enable EAX and 3D HRTF/binaural simulation in OpenAL games. You just need to basically update your OpenAL DLL files manually and create or edit an INI file, as explained here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1fzonq/psa_for_games_using_openal_including_minecraft/

I've tried that without my X-Fi sound card and it works wonderfully, with Windows set to stereo. I would imagine MB3 will suffice for DirectSound3D games too since it includes Creative ALchemy. Many of these games don't seem to require Windows to be set to 5.1 or 7.1.

- EDIT: Also props to Epic Games for implementing a 3D HRTF mode in Unreal Tournament 4 alpha! Don't think it's OpenAL based but still. Also The Talos Principle actually has OpenAL, though I think it's very limited in its functionality. Probably the first game to use it in 3 years or more.
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I keep hoping they'll change to a standard release for UT4 instead of the weird plans they've got right now. I'm worried that potentially charging for maps/mods will squelch the number of maps and mods that get made frown.gif.
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I did try the UT4 HRTF ages ago when Insaw tge option but the game never booted properly so i disabled it. Sounds like i need to try it again.

It'd be nice if they figured out a lighter delivery method for patches instead of a 4GB download everytime they add a new map or skin.

I think i did try implementing OpenAL Soft and HRTF for Amnesia on my old Window 7 PC but couldn't get the game to run properly.

When I get a chance I'll read and watch this guy's review of MB3: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=1158371
   
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Amnesia: The Dark Descent was the first game I tested OpenAL soft in following that guide, and it worked great. Took a little while to setup though, forgot what issues I ran into exactly. I also tested Penumbra: Overture and Black Plague as well as Killing Floor, all of them working successfully.
 
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Looks like I might have to give it another go then smile.gif .
   
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