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USB cable does not matter. Maybe spend a bit more for something that can take a bit of abuse.

For the rca cables, I would spend the extra money for the schiit cables.

Mono price cables would probably be fine, but you just never know what quality of cable you are getting until its too late.

Since you are in a rush and the schiit cables are cheap enough, I say screw it and get something you know works.
Yep, I find that cheap USB cables work......most of the time. But, from my own experience, a decent quality USB cable would be preferred. I found that my DAC's would sometimes lose connection to my PC, using a good quality USB cable resolved that issue....I've gotten a Straight Wire USB cable for my Oppo HA-1, and a high quality Taiwan made audio grade USB cable for my Gustard X12. Seriously, when I was using some cheap USB printer type cable, I'd get signal cut off quite regularly, annoyed the crap outta me as I'd initially thought my USB ports were faulty. Good quality USB cable ensure consistent connection without the cut-offs, don't believe in all that unicorn fart and voodoo magic talk of expensive silver cables making 'day and night' difference in sound.
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Aight... due to budget issues... out of my control... decided on Monoprice for now. $11 for a USB, RCA, and two opticals as a stopgap is fine.

Ultimately, I do want PYST cables... but that Bimby was expensive. I wouldn't be able to explain $57 in cables to my family so soon after I bought the Bimby. $39 saved now with intention of buying PYST cables when I get my Asgard 2 is worth it.

Only has to work 8 months or so.

Ugh... my Xbox 360 E has no optical out.
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Wow, 4D bass enhancement you say? I believe I'd tried a similar type headset years ago, the ear cups vibrates when there's an explosion, gunfire and such, IOW, anything to do with bass. But, I recall it being very muddy sounding, bass overwhelms everything else....can't for the life of me recall what it was called though. Definitely bass canons they were!biggrin.gif So, we can conclude that caenlen is a basshead.thumb.gif

It's not muddy bass at all on these, the JVC SV2000 bass canon kings were more muddy then these, also the highs on this are better than anything I own, I can make out every word of every single song I listn to no matter the genre, even Radiohead songs, but the treble isn't harsh like on the D2000, might be the wrong word, harsh, I just know it is fatiguing when I listen to the D2000. Soundstage is also best I have ever heard... I thought 7.1 would be crap, but this brand nailed it out of the park somehow.
    
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It's not muddy bass at all on these, the JVC SV2000 bass canon kings were more muddy then these, also the highs on this are better than anything I own, I can make out every word of every single song I listn to no matter the genre, even Radiohead songs, but the treble isn't harsh like on the D2000, might be the wrong word, harsh, I just know it is fatiguing when I listen to the D2000. Soundstage is also best I have ever heard... I thought 7.1 would be crap, but this brand nailed it out of the park somehow.
Gosh, if mids is so muddied that you can't make out what the artists is singing, then it's not only bad, it's terribad!biggrin.gif I can't say one way or another with regard to that gaming headset as I've not tried it myself, suffice to say that as long as you're happy with it, then all is good. Personally, I've NEVER tried a headset, from Razer to Logitech to HX Cloud, that makes me wanna use them for anything other than gaming. Well, perhaps the HX Cloud since it actually didn't sound bad for music.

The thing about this hobby is that, the further you move along the chain from basic to mid to higher end gear, the more you learn to appreciate what good sound sounds like (the definition of 'good', of course, varies from person to person). I'd gotten a Klipsch Image One BT a couple of years back, and back I'd though quite highly of it. It sounded great to me since what I'd thought to be good enough treble, mids and a thumping bass. Recently recharged it and gave it a spin.....my goodness, it sounded boomy, mids and treble were recessed to the point where I'd say they were veiled, and veiled badly at that. Don't know how I could have thought them to 'audiophile' standard back then. The can is still good though, for those times when I'm willing to trade audio quality for convenience.....not having cables can be so liberating.
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Gosh, if mids is so muddied that you can't make out what the artists is singing, then it's not only bad, it's terribad!biggrin.gif I can't say one way or another with regard to that gaming headset as I've not tried it myself, suffice to say that as long as you're happy with it, then all is good. Personally, I've NEVER tried a headset, from Razer to Logitech to HX Cloud, that makes me wanna use them for anything other than gaming. Well, perhaps the HX Cloud since it actually didn't sound bad for music.

The thing about this hobby is that, the further you move along the chain from basic to mid to higher end gear, the more you learn to appreciate what good sound sounds like (the definition of 'good', of course, varies from person to person). I'd gotten a Klipsch Image One BT a couple of years back, and back I'd though quite highly of it. It sounded great to me since what I'd thought to be good enough treble, mids and a thumping bass. Recently recharged it and gave it a spin.....my goodness, it sounded boomy, mids and treble were recessed to the point where I'd say they were veiled, and veiled badly at that. Don't know how I could have thought them to 'audiophile' standard back then. The can is still good though, for those times when I'm willing to trade audio quality for convenience.....not having cables can be so liberating.

Philips SHP-9500 rated very high on head fi for its clarity of vocals still produces hard to understand words from Irish folk songs and Radiohead songs, these headphones do not have that issue I can make out every word. Also hyper x cloud is crap imo, sounded awful to me, only the new Cloudx Revolver is decent, but this runs circles around even that.
    
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Philips SHP-9500 rated very high on head fi for its clarity of vocals still produces hard to understand words from Irish folk songs and Radiohead songs, these headphones do not have that issue I can make out every word. Also hyper x cloud is crap imo, sounded awful to me, only the new Cloudx Revolver is decent, but this runs circles around even that.
Hey, I'm NOT arguing with you about this, as long as you're happy with it, no need to justify yourself to me or anyone else here. All I can say is, wait for the 'honeymoon' to past, then let's see if you feel the same way about it. We're all friends here, though there are other forums where peeps would snigger and trash talk you for saying a gaming headset like that one sounds better than a Philips SHP9500 and the much loved Denon AH-D2000. My philosophy is, we all hear the same things, and it sounds different to each and everyone of us, what constitute 'good' and 'bad' sound really depend on our ability to hear, and personal preferences. We ARE allowed to have varying opinions and ideas, there is no right or wrong, that's what makes this hobby so much fun.smile.gif
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Hey, I'm NOT arguing with you about this, as long as you're happy with it, no need to justify yourself to me or anyone else here. All I can say is, wait for the 'honeymoon' to past, then let's see if you feel the same way about it. We're all friends here, though there are other forums where peeps would snigger and trash talk you for saying a gaming headset like that one sounds better than a Philips SHP9500 and the much loved Denon AH-D2000. My philosophy is, we all hear the same things, and it sounds different to each and everyone of us, what constitute 'good' and 'bad' sound really depend on our ability to hear, and personal preferences. We ARE allowed to have varying opinions and ideas, there is no right or wrong, that's what makes this hobby so much fun.smile.gif

Aye... I used to be one of those people who talked trash about headsets, and still do, 99% of them are crap. This is a very unique headset though, haha don't knock it til you try it.All genres of music are more fun to me, the bass driver is positioned perfectly, then its also wired with the vibration unit, so lower frequencies vibrate, but it also has deep bass like the T20s, its a nice combo, and it doesn't interfere with vocals at all or soundstage because all 3 drivers are seperate and its very thick earpads... its really unique haha

If you ever try them, listen to hip hop songs, like from the Weeknd artist, or well anything, and you will see what I mean biggrin.gif I know you are not arguing with me, just saying I also know what people think of me here, but I don't really care, these sound better to me, and its a fun factor involved as well.
    
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Aye... I used to be one of those people who talked trash about headsets, and still do, 99% of them are crap. This is a very unique headset though, haha don't knock it til you try it.All genres of music are more fun to me, the bass driver is positioned perfectly, then its also wired with the vibration unit, so lower frequencies vibrate, but it also has deep bass like the T20s, its a nice combo, and it doesn't interfere with vocals at all or soundstage because all 3 drivers are seperate and its very thick earpads... its really unique haha

If you ever try them, listen to hip hop songs, like from the Weeknd artist, or well anything, and you will see what I mean biggrin.gif I know you are not arguing with me, just saying I also know what people think of me here, but I don't really care, these sound better to me, and its a fun factor involved as well.
Nah, I don't think anyone thinks badly of you, just that your choice of cans and personal preference is somewhat.....perplexing, pehaps esoteric even. But hey, we can differ in opinions and as to what sounds good (or bad). Put it this way, when I said that I love my Grado GS1000i (in other forums), I can almost hear gasps of disbelief as the GS1000i can be quite......the treble cannons, so to say. But it has a sublime and surreal bass, really won me over with its sparkly highs and bass.....and its mids (and vocals) is pretty damn good as well. Only vocals (female) that beats it, imo, is the ATH-AD2000......female vocals on that can was really special.
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I am really liking this Bottlehead Crack with Speedball driving the HD650s. Also got some other tubes with it... not sure what they really are but I put the same ones that appear in the photo back in the amp and giving it a listen now.



Came with a Tung Sol 5998 (I think that's the big one I'm running now), an early 60's Valvo ECC82 driver tube (looks like the little one in there), a Mullard 6080 and a Siemens E80CC.

I've been picking out new sounds and details in songs that I hadn't been able to distinguish before - and these are songs that I have listened to a lot.

I'm probably going to call this my endgame amp (for the sake of my wallet mostly biggrin.gif )... that doesn't rule out a DAC update later though wink.gif .
   
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Hey, I'm NOT arguing with you about this, as long as you're happy with it, no need to justify yourself to me or anyone else here. All I can say is, wait for the 'honeymoon' to past, then let's see if you feel the same way about it. We're all friends here, though there are other forums where peeps would snigger and trash talk you for saying a gaming headset like that one sounds better than a Philips SHP9500 and the much loved Denon AH-D2000. My philosophy is, we all hear the same things, and it sounds different to each and everyone of us, what constitute 'good' and 'bad' sound really depend on our ability to hear, and personal preferences. We ARE allowed to have varying opinions and ideas, there is no right or wrong, that's what makes this hobby so much fun.smile.gif

Very well said thumb.gif. Not many people like that exist on Head-fi and even here.
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I am really liking this Bottlehead Crack with Speedball driving the HD650s. Also got some other tubes with it... not sure what they really are but I put the same ones that appear in the photo back in the amp and giving it a listen now.



Came with a Tung Sol 5998 (I think that's the big one I'm running now), an early 60's Valvo ECC82 driver tube (looks like the little one in there), a Mullard 6080 and a Siemens E80CC.

I've been picking out new sounds and details in songs that I hadn't been able to distinguish before - and these are songs that I have listened to a lot.

I'm probably going to call this my endgame amp (for the sake of my wallet mostly biggrin.gif )... that doesn't rule out a DAC update later though wink.gif .

That thing looks gorgeous. I hope to see more detailed impressions on it as you listen more smile.gif.
 
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