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I think the 851D will make a good piece for my living room. Several digital inputs. If I am unhappy then again I will send it back. The amp section of the 851D should handle the HD650s better than the amp on the DAC magic plus.

My son is almost four. I would have to put a tube amp up so high for him to not get to it. He is currently testing durability of all electronics in my house.

lol

You should get some electrostatic speakers. It would teach him not to mess with your stuff real quick.

Also just as a heads up, I am not sure either the dac magic plus nor the 851D actually has any real sort of amplification.

They advertise them as preamps because they have digital volume control, but I don't think they have any analog amplification.

The page for the 851D on the cambridge website actually suggests that you use the 851A as a real preamplifier.

Sooooo you might wanna start embracing the idea of a separate headphone amp. But just to be sure, I would shoot cambridge audio an email asking about it.
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You should get some electrostatic speakers. It would teach him not to mess with your stuff real quick.

Wait, you can get an actual shock from electrostatic speakers? I thought it was like a static zap at most?
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Thats why I dont wanna get electrostatic headphones or Focal Utopia which have beyrillium drivers! Dangerous stuff man! biggrin.gif






















































































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lol

You should get some electrostatic speakers. It would teach him not to mess with your stuff real quick.

Also just as a heads up, I am not sure either the dac magic plus nor the 851D actually has any real sort of amplification.

They advertise them as preamps because they have digital volume control, but I don't think they have any analog amplification.

The page for the 851D on the cambridge website actually suggests that you use the 851A as a real preamplifier.

Sooooo you might wanna start embracing the idea of a separate headphone amp. But just to be sure, I would shoot cambridge audio an email asking about it.

Well they pitch the 851D as being sufficient to run 300ohm headphones so if it is not to my liking then I will return it. The dac Magic plus does fine with my AKG K7XX and HD700s.

I opted for the 851D over the marantz so that the user interface should be the same. But if the marantz is a better amp with a dac that is equivalent then I will get that. I do like that the marantz plugs directly into the iPhone or iPad lightening without the need for the camera adapter. I see the Bluetooth getting more use from visitors though.

If neither are good at being both a DAC and amp then I will just get another dac Magic and a separate amp.
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Do you guys feel sad inside to when Canlean doesnt awnser your question ? frown.gif
..
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Anyways....
Look what i done to the Nighthawk:


Pretty freaky EQ but sounds really nice like this and OMG the imaging drool.gif
This is one strange headphone lol.


Edit:
Any of you guys use Audio Galaxy ?
Lots of "epic" music on there IMO.
Just listening on site doesnt cost anything and you get the full tracks.. sounds better then YT IMO.
I like to do this search:

https://www.audionetwork.com/track/searchkeyword?keyword=epic%2Btrailer%2Borchestra&sort=4

I was at the lakes this weekend boating and tubing. No internet or cell reception. Will catch up later tonight or tomorrow.
    
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Wait, you can get an actual shock from electrostatic speakers? I thought it was like a static zap at most?

It all depends on the speaker.
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ESL-57, Trouble Shooting

Introduction

This article is for persons seeking assistance in ESL-57 troubleshooting. The first part of this memo outlines how an ESL-57 panel sounds and behaves when it is damaged. The second part explains how to test the ESL-57 to determine which panels are damaged.

HIGH-VOLTAGE WARNING

NEVER touch any panel while either the high-tension supply or the amplifier is switched on. Take particular care to disconnect the amplifier. The ESL 57 multiplies the voltage output of the amplifier one-hundred-fold, from about 50 volts to about 5,000 volts. Consequently, both the high-tension supply and the amplifier deliver about the same high-voltage charge to the panels. However, while the high-tension charge is limited to several micro-amperes, the amplifier can deliver several amperes. Quad speakers contain fatal currents and voltages. Consequently, take particular care to switch off and to disconnect the amplifier.
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So you're saying it's great with metal too...man I didn't need anymore audio stuff redface.gif...

Bad news (for your wallet's sake), Pez... if this listening session is anything to go by then this amp is very capable for metal biggrin.gif .

Been listening to a lossless version of Devin Townsend's Ocean Machine: Biomech and it doing just fine.

Something I hadn't noticed before and I'm not sure if its the amp or the HD650s is how much stuff is happening "out there" beyond the headphones with this album.

Very nice. Only a few tracks before I get to The Death of Music where I expect I'll probably up the volume a little more smile.gif .
   
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*sigh* I JUST got my spending under control redface.gif.
 
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*sigh* I JUST got my spending under control redface.gif.

Haha I hear you biggrin.gif .

I told (or convinced) myself the Bottlehead Crack was the endgame amp so now that I have the Sanskrit enroute that should cover the DAC duties I think the headphone situation (aka spending spree) is done.

I also have an old Airport Express coming soon so I plan to hook that up to the Sanskrit via toslink to give a headphone station I can airplay the majority of my lossless audio collection. Look forward to having that set up.

The Crack has no issues with heavier music however one of the first bottlenecks in the enjoyment factor becomes the mastering of the source material. As much as I still love the music some of my CDs have not scaled with the speaker or headphone advancements.
   
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Haha I hear you biggrin.gif .

I told (or convinced) myself the Bottlehead Crack was the endgame amp so now that I have the Sanskrit enroute that should cover the DAC duties I think the headphone situation (aka spending spree) is done.

I also have an old Airport Express coming soon so I plan to hook that up to the Sanskrit via toslink to give a headphone station I can airplay the majority of my lossless audio collection. Look forward to having that set up.

The Crack has no issues with heavier music however one of the first bottlenecks in the enjoyment factor becomes the mastering of the source material. As much as I still love the music some of my CDs have not scaled with the speaker or headphone advancements.


That's cute.

Just wait. First you will have to get the speed ball upgrade. Then you will end up replacing all your resistors and caps with higher grade ones. Then you will get much better and far more expensive tubes.

Then you will realize that there are better amps out there in the world. tongue.gif

Good luck. You'll need it.
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