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The thing about cables is, some are firm believers while others do not, I'm somewhat on the fence (tilting toward being a disbeliever) on this for headphones but NOT for IEM's (will explain later in this post). The most expensive cable I have is 1.2m length of Effect Audio Thor Silver 8W which cost about 450USD, but I'd gotten it used at about 270USD, this represents the highest I'm willing to pony up for a good 3rd party cable. While I'm on the fence about buying pricey cables for headphones, I can't say the same when it comes to IEM's because I could hear a difference. I do own a couple of ALO Audio SXC24 cables (a new SXC24 cable costs about the same as the used Effect Audio Thor Silver 8W used), one for my Fitear Parterre and the other for my CampFire Audio Jupiter. One was used while the other's brand new.

I was willing to pay for these cables because I could actually hear the difference between the ALO and stock cables. It opened up the sound a nice bit more, and I was able to hear more detail (which seemed to improve separation) thus improving soundstage. It boggled my mind as I was such a fence sitter when it came to cables. I'd asked around, as to why cables seems to affect IEM's more profoundly than headphones. The basic answer is that, IEM's, due to their size and design/crossovers, are more predisposed to better signal/electrical path provided by better cables whereas headphones do not share the IEM's 'flaws' and as such, do not respond as noticeably to cable change of the same type (that is, copper to copper, copper to silver would result in a more noticeable change).

For headphones in general, IF there's a difference, it's subtle at best.....now, whether the price paid justifies the cash outflow for the new cable depends entirely on that particular person and how deep his/her pockets are. For example, I've read of someone who'd paid for a DHC Prion 4 silver cable for his HEK, that's a set of 1800USD cable right there! Worth it? That's entire up to him....but for me, that 1800USD would be better spent on an Ether Flow or a Focal Elear (with some cash to spare).

Interesting observation, it also makes great sense because as you mentioned the in-ear monitors are more predisposed to superior electrical paths which can be provided by better quality cables. Personally I have only bought cables for headphones whenever the original ones would break and I would need a replacement but they were never intended as upgrades, merely just replacements and only at times when the original cable replacements were not available.
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The bigger question I have is why settle for something like the Dragonfly when you're dropping that much on a set of headphones? The Dragonfly amp/DACs sound good for their price, but they're nothing more special than the other run-of-the-mill amps in that range (see Magni, O2, etc). If you need that compact of a set up though, then just ignore me smile.gif.

Mainly because of financial reasons, I was planning to get a BeyerDynamic A20 at a later date but first I needed an oustanding DAC. Dragonfly Red is both a DAC and an AMP, plus, for an affordable price hence why I went after it. We had a whole discussion here.

Speaking of the Dragonfly Red, ordered it today, should arrive any day now thumb.gif

My DT1990 Pro are supposed to arrive sometime next week.
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I love the look of the ghetto upgraded T50 headband actually, lol. I'm still gonna go for the Blackwood, I don't see myself getting another dynamic.

I don't hate it at all, I think its absolutely fine on their Classic and maybe even Vibro models. But when you're paying $650 or even $900 I would just expect something a little nicer.
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Interesting observation, it also makes great sense because as you mentioned the in-ear monitors are more predisposed to superior electrical paths which can be provided by better quality cables. Personally I have only bought cables for headphones whenever the original ones would break and I would need a replacement but they were never intended as upgrades, merely just replacements and only at times when the original cable replacements were not available.
Mainly because of financial reasons, I was planning to get a BeyerDynamic A20 at a later date but first I needed an oustanding DAC. Dragonfly Red is both a DAC and an AMP, plus, for an affordable price hence why I went after it. We had a whole discussion here.

Speaking of the Dragonfly Red, ordered it today, should arrive any day now thumb.gif

My DT1990 Pro are supposed to arrive sometime next week.

I see. Very well. Good luck to you thumb.gif.
 
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post #33904 of 38578
My "new" (used) HPs arrived today.
I may delve deeper into the world of planars (400i didn't rock my world - maybe the 560's will) or e-stats (my STAX saga has been moderately expensive and completely disappointing so far) but I think these may be my "endgame" for dynamics - unless I buy the same again but newer.


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post #33905 of 38578
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I don't hate it at all, I think its absolutely fine on their Classic and maybe even Vibro models. But when you're paying $650 or even $900 I would just expect something a little nicer.
Agreed, a flagship should be well designed in all aspects.
post #33906 of 38578
Bad news, just got an e-mail from Pure Audio saying that my Dragonfly Red will only ship towards the end of October frown.gif
That means that next week I wont have anything to drive my DT 1990 Pro with.

I really hate how in Switzerland they have very low inventory for audio products and when you purchase them they are almost always imported from abroad after you placed the order.
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Guys (and girls if any)
I am looking for a headphone that can replace my Nighthawks.

Stock the Nighthawks are just so so but EQ'ed i absolutely love them.
Only thing i miss is soundstage.

I am going to sell my HD650 because it just cant compete with the Nighthawks.

What i want is a good deep and tight bass like the Nighthawks.
Same or better imaging as the Nighthawks.
Imaging on the Nighthawk is just crazy, it goes left, right, front, back, up and down like i never heard before.
I am just missing the soundstage, things sound inside and outside your head at the same time but i wish it could go even further out.
The soundstage is more narrow then the HD650 wich also doesnt have a huge soundstage.

I know it sounds wierd but these headphones are pretty wierd, awesome but wierd.

I looked at many headphone reviews and such and it looks like i should be focusing on some Audeze LCD-2, LCD-3 or LCD-X.
Problem is they are crazy expensive and hard to get here in Holland and dont think i can audition them before buying frown.gif

Are the Audeze's the way to go or are there other headphones (hopefully cheaper) that i could look for ?
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post #33908 of 38578
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Guys (and girls if any)
I am looking for a headphone that can replace my Nighthawks.

Stock the Nighthawks are just so so but EQ'ed i absolutely love them.
Only thing i miss is soundstage.

I am going to sell my HD650 because it just cant compete with the Nighthawks.

What i want is a good deep and tight bass like the Nighthawks.
Same or better imaging as the Nighthawks.
Imaging on the Nighthawk is just crazy, it goes left, right, front, back, up and down like i never heard before.
I am just missing the soundstage, things sound inside and outside your head at the same time but i wish it could go even further out.
The soundstage is more narrow then the HD650 wich also doesnt have a huge soundstage.

I know it sounds wierd but these headphones are pretty wierd, awesome but wierd.

I looked at many headphone reviews and such and it looks like i should be focusing on some Audeze LCD-2, LCD-3 or LCD-X.
Problem is they are crazy expensive and hard to get here in Holland and dont think i can audition them before buying frown.gif

Are the Audeze's the way to go or are there other headphones (hopefully cheaper) that i could look for ?

Honestly, I would never get an LCD-2f over the HE-560 nowadays. The bass doesn't go as deep IMO, but the soundstage is much better and more importantly, it's $300 cheaper for the same tier headphones.
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post #33909 of 38578
Another vote for HE-560 not to mention it supposedly responds well to modding.

Better yet an HE-6, maybe used, which supposedly responds even more to modding but it's amazing even without it. Can get a good speaker amp for it for only a few hundred.
 
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I have this urge to try out a pair of he560's now with everyone recommending them tongue.gif
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Kingston 64GB SSDnow 200 CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Pro 240 Windows 7 64 Bit Dell E2213H 
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