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I didn't quote you in any of that post or direct it at you. I actually was referring to both Tjj and friend'scatdied since they proceeded with more garbage/trash-calling speak smile.gif.

Well hold on there pez.

I know I say garbage a lot, but what I really mean to say is dog schiit. But standards wont let me tongue.gif

Joking aside, I am going to go on a bit of a rant here, and it is by no way directed to you or at you.

The sad truth is that I would say that at least 80% of what is on the market is actually absolute crap. I am saying this more out of frustration than I am out of demeaning tone.

Consider this. With a very very modest cnc machine and a few hundred bucks, you can make the sennheiser HE-90. Platinum coated strators and all.

If you get really comfortable with the process of making the headphones, I would go so far as to say that you could build the HE-90s and the amp it comes with for less than 500 bucks.

With that in mind, I would argue that most people actually spend money on audio gear for convience rather than quality. Which is fine, I have no issues with that what so ever.

However the price of convince is only worth a certain amount. At some point I expect that some level of standards should be met. If someone is releasing a piece of gear, it means they have heard it, and priced it accordingly.

If that piece of gear fails to meet standards, then what is there left to say?

The HE-560 is a 600-700 dollar pair of headphones, and they sound totally anemic and clinical. The HD800s still don't have any bass, and sennheiser apparently knew this which is why they made the hd800s which barely fixes the problem. The LCD-2 which I like a lot only sounds decent with the prefazor model and a set of after market headphone cables.

The AKG K7XXs are way too bright, the beyerdynaic stuff just doesn't like mid range frequencies.

I could go on and on and on.

And here is the kicker. Go get a pair of sennheiser HD201s for 20 bucks and plug them into a decent amp. They don't sound spectacular, but I think most people would find that they actually don't do anything drastically wrong. They have a small amount of bass, the mids are pleasant, and the highs are pretty tame. The sound stage is a bit small, but again, not too bad really.

They are just a simple OK sounding pair of headphones with a 20 dollar price tag.

At some point, you start to learn that everything and everyone in the audio world is full of schiit, and the manufacturers are greedy schmucks who just want to take your money, or they are too stupid to know any better.
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And here is the kicker. Go get a pair of sennheiser HD201s for 20 bucks and plug them into a decent amp. They don't sound spectacular, but I think most people would find that they actually don't do anything drastically wrong. They have a small amount of bass, the mids are pleasant, and the highs are pretty tame. The sound stage is a bit small, but again, not too bad really.

They are just a simple OK sounding pair of headphones with a 20 dollar price tag.

Now @caenlen is going to go buy an HD 201.
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@ACM

You can always upgrade your AMP/DAC set-up, HD600s will do well and for the most part significantly better than the DT990s, especially long term.

Nonetheless, it is entirely up to you and your own preferences.
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Extremely long post.
I'm not going to attempt to justify the price but... I highly doubt that material cost is under $500.
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Now @caenlen is going to go buy an HD 201.

lol, nah I have tried HD 201 and 202 before, they are terrible quality in sound imo, my 8323's stomp them (for that price range, again everyone likes different sound sigantures though, because z-reviews says other cans stomp the 8323's but w.e) I will admit, my 8323's are now retired, because these Plantronics Rig headset at $21 stomps them, in bass, soundstage, everything... the bass has a really nice extension to it for only $21 haha, its not perfect, little treble spiky, and imaging and sound stage is not as good as the Kingston Hyperx Stinger headset that just came out, so Stinger still wins for me in the budget arena overall.

@ACm +rep for the parks and recreation gif, my fav show of all time, especially since i live in indiana and you have no idea how much of that show is actually true, its insanely funny to me, @ACm try the Philips SHP-9500 with HM5 velour earpads, you don't need an adapter, they pop right off, and the velours wrap around perfect, increasing bass as well since your ear sits closer to driver. those cans are very unique... Imaging is 10/10 and only cost $60 new.

@tjjangel I am still looking for a used LCD-2 on head-fi, saw a bamboo one for $605, but it got snatched up to quick, was a pre-fazor. Will keep my eyes peeled though. If you ever get the chance to try the Kingston Hyperx Cloud Stinger at $49.99 that came out last week, or need to recc a gaming headset to someone I recc that one more than even my $15 8323's now, those cans go way above their weight class. also, I agree with majority of what you said in your rant post above. my only issue is what is your hate for Schiit? the Jotunheim for instance is priced very well and kicks a lot of butt according to a lot of things I have read, finally an amp for the masses that punches way above its weight class, this is the kind of behavior you want to see more of I thought?

@pez my he-350s are for sell on various websites, you love them so much please buy :DDDDD I just bought some Sennheiser HD700s at $350 shipped no tax, sealed new... can't wait, everyone hates on them like they do the T90s, haha going to be a lot of
    
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lol, nah I have tried HD 201 and 202 before, they are terrible quality in sound imo, my 8323's stomp them (for that price range, again everyone likes different sound sigantures though, because z-reviews says other cans stomp the 8323's but w.e) I will admit, my 8323's are now retired, because these Plantronics Rig headset at $21 stomps them, in bass, soundstage, everything... the bass has a really nice extension to it for only $21 haha, its not perfect, little treble spiky, and imaging and sound stage is not as good as the Kingston Hyperx Stinger headset that just came out, so Stinger still wins for me in the budget arena overall.

@ACm +rep for the parks and recreation gif, my fav show of all time, especially since i live in indiana and you have no idea how much of that show is actually true, its insanely funny to me, @ACm try the Philips SHP-9500 with HM5 velour earpads, you don't need an adapter, they pop right off, and the velours wrap around perfect, increasing bass as well since your ear sits closer to driver. those cans are very unique... Imaging is 10/10 and only cost $60 new.

@tjjangel I am still looking for a used LCD-2 on head-fi, saw a bamboo one for $605, but it got snatched up to quick, was a pre-fazor. Will keep my eyes peeled though. If you ever get the chance to try the Kingston Hyperx Cloud Stinger at $49.99 that came out last week, or need to recc a gaming headset to someone I recc that one more than even my $15 8323's now, those cans go way above their weight class. also, I agree with majority of what you said in your rant post above. my only issue is what is your hate for Schiit? the Jotunheim for instance is priced very well and kicks a lot of butt according to a lot of things I have read, finally an amp for the masses that punches way above its weight class, this is the kind of behavior you want to see more of I thought?

@pez my he-350s are for sell on various websites, you love them so much please buy :DDDDD I just bought some Sennheiser HD700s at $350 shipped no tax, sealed new... can't wait, everyone hates on them like they do the T90s, haha going to be a lot of
Did you buy them from an authorized dealer?
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@ACm +rep for the parks and recreation gif, my fav show of all time, especially since i live in indiana and you have no idea how much of that show is actually true, its insanely funny to me, @ACm try the Philips SHP-9500 with HM5 velour earpads, you don't need an adapter, they pop right off, and the velours wrap around perfect, increasing bass as well since your ear sits closer to driver. those cans are very unique... Imaging is 10/10 and only cost $60 new.

Amazing show, I'm originally from Wanatah Indiana. Maybe I'll try the Philips with pads and spend more money on a dac & amp if I want different headphone later..

I'm so confused on what to do. lol
    
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I'm not going to attempt to justify the price but... I highly doubt that material cost is under $500.

Noooooooo sir.

Electrostatic headphones are dirt cheap to make. There is a whole thread on the head-fi diy section about this.

The copper for the strators run anywhere from 20 to 50 bucks depending on the quality and quantity you want to buy.

The mylar is also right around 20 bucks depending on the thickness and amount you want.

The only real thing that gets in the way of cost is that sometimes you are forced to purchase way more material than you need. Like a copper sheet might cost you 50-60 bucks but thats because it is a 4x4 foot sheet and you only need like a quarter of the material.

Electroplating is an extra step specifically for the HE-90s, and most people have the equipment in their home to electroplate stuff. And you only need such a tiny amount of platinum that you can get it from ebay for a few bucks.

For 100 bucks, you should easily be able to buy all the materials and still have some breathing room for other costs to make quite a few drivers.



The big cost is the amp.

I believe it is an all tube amp in a push pull configuration that runs the headphones directly off of the tube outputs.

It does not look like it uses a tube rectifier, so I would say that it uses about a 100 dollar power transformer and maybe 60 bucks for the rest of the power supply.

The main amp is probably 200 bucks for everything else. The only thing I am unsure about is the tubes. If they are some super rare fancy tubes, then yeah the price would shoot up a lot.

But it looks like they might be 12ax7s with two el84s in push pull. IDK. Hard to say.
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lol, nah I have tried HD 201 and 202 before, they are terrible quality in sound imo, my 8323's stomp them (for that price range, again everyone likes different sound sigantures though, because z-reviews says other cans stomp the 8323's but w.e) I will admit, my 8323's are now retired, because these Plantronics Rig headset at $21 stomps them, in bass, soundstage, everything... the bass has a really nice extension to it for only $21 haha, its not perfect, little treble spiky, and imaging and sound stage is not as good as the Kingston Hyperx Stinger headset that just came out, so Stinger still wins for me in the budget arena overall.

It also largely depends on the amp you use to power the headphones though.

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Noooooooo sir.

Electrostatic headphones are dirt cheap to make. There is a whole thread on the head-fi diy section about this.

The copper for the strators run anywhere from 20 to 50 bucks depending on the quality and quantity you want to buy.

The mylar is also right around 20 bucks depending on the thickness and amount you want.

The only real thing that gets in the way of cost is that sometimes you are forced to purchase way more material than you need. Like a copper sheet might cost you 50-60 bucks but thats because it is a 4x4 foot sheet and you only need like a quarter of the material.

Electroplating is an extra step specifically for the HE-90s, and most people have the equipment in their home to electroplate stuff. And you only need such a tiny amount of platinum that you can get it from ebay for a few bucks.

For 100 bucks, you should easily be able to buy all the materials and still have some breathing room for other costs to make quite a few drivers.



The big cost is the amp.

I believe it is an all tube amp in a push pull configuration that runs the headphones directly off of the tube outputs.

It does not look like it uses a tube rectifier, so I would say that it uses about a 100 dollar power transformer and maybe 60 bucks for the rest of the power supply.

The main amp is probably 200 bucks for everything else. The only thing I am unsure about is the tubes. If they are some super rare fancy tubes, then yeah the price would shoot up a lot.

But it looks like they might be 12ax7s with two el84s in push pull. IDK. Hard to say.
There's the enclosure/cup design and the driver itself to consider, plus the pads and headband. Short of stumbling into it on your first go it seems less than likely that someone could buy what they needed and assemble it all into an excellently performing headphone.
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