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There's the enclosure/cup design and the driver itself to consider, plus the pads and headband. Short of stumbling into it on your first go it seems less than likely that someone could buy what they needed and assemble it all into an excellently performing headphone.

Its not a complex enclosure at all.

Its a wooden oval and that's about it. Electrostatic headphones do not care about the enclosure very much. Its pretty much there to allow the drivers to sit on your head and prevent you from sticking your fingers in and getting shocked.
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Did you buy them from an authorized dealer?

Authorized dealer for what? and yes I think Adorama is authorized, I am not 100% sure though.
    
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Its not a complex enclosure at all.

Its a wooden oval and that's about it. Electrostatic headphones do not care about the enclosure very much. Its pretty much there to allow the drivers to sit on your head and prevent you from sticking your fingers in and getting shocked.
Make some DIY-HE90s and sell 'em for a killing tongue.gif. I think there's definitely a market for cheaper stats out there.
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Authorized dealer for what? and yes I think Adorama is authorized, I am not 100% sure though.
For warranty service from Sennheiser, here's a link to the list: https://en-us.sennheiser.com/authorized-dealers

Adorama is indeed on there.
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If you ask me I would much rather spend more money on a pair of headphones which was designed and manufactured competently by qualified people in a professional environment in Germany than on something which was built by some amateur in his basement using cheap materials.
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YO, my geek audiophile peeps! I require you to bestow your mighty knowledge on sound and software =] and stop fightin.

So, I have creative xz sound card, and HD 650 sennhieser as my headphone. Now an issue i have had in the past and present, is that some games the dialog voice cannot be heard.

My most recent game is witcher 3, any suggestions or hints as to why I cannot hear characters talk?

2nd is that my surround sound speakers Logitech Surround Sound Speakers Z506 connected to the sound card does not produce any sound, however when connected to my mobo it works.


Now I am not sure steps I should do to troubleshoot, or software that needs to be touched (I do have the creative driver and software updated and running thus far)

Anywho any suggestions?

Hi, is the voice always gone or is it a random and intermittent issue? You also mentioned speakers? It sounds like the game is using a 5.1ch setup and placing all voices in the centre channel as expected but because the headphones are only two channel you're only getting the left and right signals sent to the headphones.

Edit: what are the speaker settings in Windows and the Creative SBX Pro console and what happens when you test each channel?
   
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Regarding the HD650s I wear glasses all the time and can wear the HD650s for hours without problems smile.gif . I just have two neat channels in the pads biggrin.gif . For amplification I use a Bottlehead Crack for dedicated music sessions or an O2 when gaming and the O2 has plenty of power to drive them well (though get the 6x gain version as the 3.5x in some instances isn't quite enough wink.gif ). And while its not pretty I do use the FiiO E10K as the DAC so all up the DAC and Amp for the PC setup was rather cheap and keeps me happy smile.gif .
   
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razer kraken v1 sales for $70 USD... thats like 50 quid... you got jipped. return it for a refund. ill browse some UK stores for you and find you a 100x better can for that price for gaming.

 

I don't actually have them yet, I was supposed to get them on the weekend.

 

I'll probably get some Sennheiser ATH-M50s or something.

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Ignore Andrews. He's a bad troll tongue.gif.

 

confused.gif

   
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I don't actually have them yet, I was supposed to get them on the weekend.

I'll probably get some Sennheiser ATH-M50s or something.

confused.gif

ATH-M50s have 0 ZERO sound stage... they are terrible for gaming, great for slamming music, but terrible for gaming... the ATH-m40x is better than m50x for gaming, just look up reviews on both. z-reviews, and head-fi overall reviews, and sometimes I dig a little deeper and check out headphonia or even some place obscure.

sigh... well I have given you my budget advice young padawan, it is all I can do. I saved you money and gave you better gaming can than m50x would ever be able to obtain, you need that sound stage and imaging for gaming. if you want trance music, or any bass music, i am fine supporting the m50x.

I am wearing my hyper cloud stinger as i write this... i like it a lot honestly and I have tried a ton of cans... everyone likes different things though, but I am telling you right now you want more sound stage for gaming than m50x can deliver. if you can find kingston hyperx cloud revolver (it is much nicer than cloud 1 and 2) then that is a good option as well. Stinger might not be an option yet due to limited availability, i would say revolver does do some things better than stinger, but they are pretty top notch both of them. (fyi i am not cloud fanboy, i hated the cloud 1 and 2 at how bad they sounded and immediatley went back to my shp-9500's for gaming)
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That is either a diver issue or your sound card is just plain broken.

I would try to reinstall the driver, or just do a clean format of windows.


Nope and nope, I did clean install of Windows 10 professional, and driver zero effect.
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I didn't quote you in any of that post or direct it at you. I actually was referring to both Tjj and friend'scatdied since they proceeded with more garbage/trash-calling speak smile.gif. No need to be upset, bud thumb.gif.
What happens if you uninstall the Createive crapware and just have the normal driver going? Also, silly question, but if you go into Windows options, do you have all of he bitrates selected to run? I have a pretty good feeling it's up to that Creative suite of software you may have installed.

not sure how to cheak the bitrates and stuff (but read comments below)
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Out of sheer curiosity.... When your speakers are attached to the sound card and no sound is going through to them.... Do you also have headphones plugged in? A lot of products will automatically mute speakers if headphones are plugged in. If it's just speakers, the next thing I'd check is playback devices to see if Windows decided a monitor or something else should have priority (as opposed to your speakers). I've had this happen every now and then with either nvidia drivers taking priority via the hdmi, or occasionally Windows derping and choosing the headphone out built into my monitors.

negative: Speakers are connected to the mobo, not sound card because if connected to the sound card, nothing works. As a side note I only use front R/L and center speakers so..3.1?



Now as a general question, if I were to finally get the speakers to work connected to the sound card, the HD650, should I be connecting it directly to sound card or can it be connected to the output of the speaker control center which would be connected to the sound card. (Not sure if sound quality would be affected)



Troubleshooting outcomes based on comments/replys:

I uninstalled all of creative bloatware software, and disabled on BIOS the HDAudio.

Results:

Now my speakers work connected on soundcard, but my headphones do not. I went on playback settings and I see an option called "headphones" "HD audio device not connected"
and I go on description
"Device HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_1102&DEV_0011&SUBSYS_11020023&REV_1009\5&32e2be4c&1&0101 requires further installation."

Now is this option my actual headphones?


Update 2:

So I decided for the sake of following ALL comments, I deleted sound drivers and software combined. I let windows 10 do its own thing, this allowed speakers to work on soundcard,

Then Headphone would NOT work on speaker, so I went to download creative software/driver reboot and headphone works on soundcard.

Next question would be, what is the best/fastest way to switch between the two without going to playback?
Edited by istudy92 - 10/11/16 at 6:33pm
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Its painful but i think you do need to swap the playback device in Windows each time you want to go between speakers and headphones. That way when using speakers you use proper 5.1ch sound and for headphones you can specifically adjust virtualised sound and other SBX Pro features that don't make sense to the speakers.

Swapping devices will also make sure that games that are properly coded for headphones will sound correct (theoretically).
   
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